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Should Christians be doormats?

Discussion in 'Christianity DIR' started by Shiranui117, Aug 13, 2017.

  1. Shiranui117

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    So we all know Christ's commandments, and by extension those of St. John the Baptist: If you are slapped on one cheek, turn the other. Love those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who persecute you. If a man sues you for your cloak, give him your tunic as well. If you are forced to carry a Roman soldier's gear for him for one mile, carry it for two.

    It's quite easy to see how a Christian can interpret these commandments as saying that we should become doormats, letting everyone walk over us. But is there more to it than that? Should we actually be doormats, or is there another way of looking at this? I know the "doormat Christian" idea is something that served as a stumbling block for me a great deal over the past year or two. What are your thoughts?
     
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    When you are doing the right thing and people say it is evil, that is when you tolerate the violence of enemies while waiting to be exonerated. When an 'Evil person' strikes you, turn the other cheek with the end goal of converting them. Romans 12:18-21 is a recipe. Live peacefully as much as possible with all men. Do not be vengeful. Feed your enemy if he is hungry and if thirsty give him drink. Odds are that this will happen, since evil people often are poor providers. The goal is to overcome evil with good, not to be a big idiot and get yourself wiped out. Peace and goodness are more powerful than evil. If you are vengeful you propagate evil, but if you intelligently return evil with good then you soften and end it. The author says to 'Heap burning coals upon the head' of your enemy, which I think means make them regret their actions through their consciences. That opens the door for positive change.

    Contrast the way the Allied powers treated Germany at the end of WWI with the way they treated Germany at the end of WWII. After WWI they imposed vengeful tax burdens upon Germany. The result was more evil. After WWII they helped rebuild Germany, and the result was a transformation.
     
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    Being patient during persecution isn't quite what I had in mind with this thread. What I was getting at is when people take advantage of you at work, at home, at school, or anywhere else because they know they can, is the Christian thing to do to just let them, or is it acceptable to draw a line and say "That's enough"?
     
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    Well, of course we shouldn't nust let people step on us for the sake of health, at least. I think Christ is using hyperbole here to encourage us not to return like with like but to rise above the urge to retaliate. We shouldn't return injury with injury, but curses with prayers and injuries with understanding and forgiveness.
     
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    Don't be a pushover in all situations, but choose when and how to do it. Compare it to the tired swimmer problem that lifeguards deal with. If a tired swimmer sees a strong swimmer in the water that tired swimmer will sometimes panic and try to use the other person as a float and may drown that strong swimmer. If someone is using you (the lifeguard) as a float, what you have to do is sink so they will let you go. Then you can take control of the situation and save them. If you don't do that they can get you both killed. So assess before you decide to be a pushover. Make them aware of who is the strong swimmer and that you are choosing to be of service.

    Paul escaped to save his life. Jesus walked through a crowd that was trying to lynch him. Why didn't they allow themselves to be killed those two times?
     
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