Just the opposite, I am showing the futility of telling one there is no reason to believe when ones faith can not be disproved.
"faith?" isn't that just another way of saying, you have no good reason for believing, but you continue to do so?
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Just the opposite, I am showing the futility of telling one there is no reason to believe when ones faith can not be disproved.
I believe those books were written as a way to reach and understand God. I will not comment on this. I know my texts are true, I know if I do not follow my texts I will be in jeopardy. I am not God and I will make no comment on this.
You could have saved us a lot of time. Faith can never be disproved; it's not about proof. If it were, we wouldn't call it faith.Just the opposite, I am showing the futility of telling one there is no reason to believe when ones faith can not be disproved.
Well that's silly. Some historic documents are contemporaneous, have known authors, are written for nuetral purposes, are corroborated, or have other reasons that lend them credibility. The gospels are written by unknown authors, for obvious propaganda purposes, generations after the events described, and are completely uncorroborated. But apparently it's all the same to you.
I assume you treat the q'uran the same way? It has comparable indicia of reliability.
Does that not meet the standard that I said in my post? "living witness or physical evidence" 3 different sources (just a # I picked), eyewitness reports or other evidence.
For example, any God that grants prayers. Or, an perfectly benevolent, good, loving and all-powerful God. That God could not possibly exist.
The illogic of accepting any one 'omnipotent' god concept over another, without any evidence that you have selected to worship the 'correct' version of god is in itself evidence that there is no omnipotent, interventionist, revelatory god. For if there was, it would, by it's own omnipotent power, make itself known to all.
He has. That is a great argument by the way.
Does that not meet the standard that I said in my post? "living witness or physical evidence" 3 different sources (just a # I picked), eyewitness reports or other evidence.
Why? I have a good life I don't ask for anything in my prayers either? Perhaps that is why I believe, to ask for personal things in prayer is not the purpose.
Prayer shows faith and cleanses your soul.
No, he/she/it has not. If it had, there would be no debate.
As "by it's own omnipotent power" would make debate unnecessary.
And if , as you claim, God has revealed himself to all, then God is not omnipotent. Since the numerous god concepts, not to mention atheism, disprove the omnipotency.
Just because some choose not to see is not my problem! Open your eyes to the wonder of He that is.
Just because some choose not to see is not my problem! Open your eyes to the wonder of He that is.
No, he/she/it has not. If it had, there would be no debate.
As "by it's own omnipotent power" would make debate unnecessary.
And if , as you claim, God has revealed himself to all, then God is not omnipotent. Since the numerous god concepts, not to mention atheism, disprove the omnipotency.
Just because some choose not to see is not my problem! Open your eyes to the wonder of He that is.
So you agree that your God does not grant prayers?
Not in ways that can be understood. I say that prayer helps and it does, miracles are all over, not just for those that pray but all.
I have some issues with these people that put their hands on someone and heal them or sell healing prayers by mail? That is not Biblical as the healing powers were bestowed on the Apostles and when they were gone there were no more like them.
Does it help, yes it help's the one praying for someone else, do miracles happen? Yes. Are they a result of prayer? Perhaps, Do miracles only happen if there is prayer? No. Are only believers granted miracles? No.
Everything has it's time, there is a balance, Zen if you will. Some must die that others may live and prosper.
Cop out. You have just given humans power over God, in that they can chose to ignore a revelation of Gods Omnipotent power. Thus reducing God to less then omnipotent. and reliant upon hear-say.
It's a pretty simple question. If you, a devout Christian, pray for something to happen, is it any more likely to happen than if you don't?
The Bible is too illogical to be a fake.
Wow.
Talk about desperation making one grasp at straws.....
This can be said of all revealed revelations.The Bible is too illogical to be a fake.
These religions rely on revealed revelations.
In each case, the deity expressed the revelation to a select group of people, to be spread to others.
The God who desires worship. Or commands acknowledgment, and sets forth laws for the people to follow, is restricted in direct communication to a select few, and expects others to suspend rational thought and accept hear-say as a direct communication from God.
This obvious limitation in communication between an 'omnipotent' deity and its supposed creation creates confusion in translation and interpretation, multiple denominations, multiple religions and sects. And most revealing of all, numerous god concepts in contradiction with each other.
The illogic of accepting any one 'omnipotent' god concept over another, without any evidence that you have selected to worship the 'correct' version of god is in itself evidence that there is no omnipotent, interventionist, revelatory god. For if there was, it would, by it's own omnipotent power, make itself known to all.