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Featured Shocked To Find Out Yahweh Was Originally A Canaanite God Who Had A Wife, Asherah

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by SeekingAllTruth, Jan 29, 2021.

  1. Subduction Zone

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    Actually unbelievers usually have a better understanding since they find no need to "make it true". The Tyre prophecy is one of the worst in the Bible, it is a test of a Christians ability to honestly interpret their book. Another one is the Test of an Unfaithful Wife. Whoo baby! Does that one cause some sparks to fly at times.
     
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    Your second reply confirmed the first reply to me.
     
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    Wheel in Vedic scripture:

    "Seven yoke the chariot that has a single wheel. One horse that has seven names carries it. The wheel has three naves, is undecaying and never overcome, where all these beings are placed".

    "Revolving on this five-spoked wheel all beings stand. Though it carries a heavy load, its axle does not over heat. From of old it does not break its ancient laws"

    "Twelve are its fellies. The wheel is one. It has three naves. Who has understood it?

    It are held together like spokes the 360, both moving and non-moving".
     
  4. WonderingWorrier

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    I think the city of Jerusalem is Zodiac wheel.
    It is the truth that has come from heaven.


    For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Hebrews 11:10

    Thus saith the Lord; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the Lord of hosts the holy mountain. Zechariah 8:8




    For example:

    In Jerusalem the lion is having straw with the cattle and the bear.

    They on the northern section of the wheel:



    And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. Isaiah 11:7

    And the gates of the city shall be after the names of the tribes of Israel: three gates northward; one gate of Reuben, one gate of Judah, one gate of Levi. Ezekiel 48:31



    Now the children of Reuben and the children of Gad had a very great multitude of cattle: and when they saw the land of Jazer, and the land of Gilead, that, behold, the place was a place for cattle; Numbers 32:1


    And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. Revelation 5:5


    And after a time he returned to take her, and he turned aside to see the carcase of the lion: and behold, there was a swarm of bees and honey in the carcase of the lion. Judges 14:8

    And the men of the city said unto him on the seventh day before the sun went down, What is sweeter than honey? And what is stronger than a lion? and he said unto them, If ye had not plowed with my heifer, ye had not found out my riddle. Judges 14:18


    Honey from the lion. Milk from the cow.


    But I have said unto you, Ye shall inherit their land, and I will give it unto you to possess it, a land that floweth with milk and honey: I am the LORD your God, which have seperated you from other people. Leviticus 20:24




    The keywords fit the gates.

    In the city the lion is having straw with the cattle and the bear.
    And the wolf is having stubble with the sheep and the horse.
    And the leopard is having dust with the goats and the deer.


    Zodiac. The circle of animals:

    10/12 animals of Israel:

    Straw:
    Lion Judah
    Cattle Rueben
    Bear Levi
    Brass.
    Spear.

    So the lion is eating straw with the ox.

    Stubble:
    Sheep Joseph
    Wolf Benjamin
    Dan horse
    Gold
    Bow.

    So the wolf is with the lamb.

    Dust:
    Asher Goat
    Naphtali Deer
    Gad Leopard
    Silver
    Sword.

    So the leopard is with the kid goat.


    Issachar As s
    (Haven't yet sorted the other two).


    I can show multiple more verses to further verify anything i show.

    Maybe someone wants to have a closer look at this with me.
     
  5. TrueBeliever37

    TrueBeliever37 Well-Known Member

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    The Tyre prophecy is a great one. You just lack understanding, and are looking for anything you can to try to discredit God's word.

    Why did you skip the questions in post #267?
     
  6. Muffled

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    I believe there is no evidence to support this view.
     
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    I believe archeologists fantasize a great deal. I see a statue but no text. Are you hiding it on purpose?
     
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    We have lot of evidence for the flood, orogenic mountains, current continents, marine fossils on high mountains, oil and gas fields...

    Are you a disciple of Jesus?
     
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    I missed this post. Sometimes site is quite active. Daniel was written in the 2nd Century BCE, it was another book that wrote history as prophecy:

    Apocalypticism Explained | Apocalypse! FRONTLINE | PBS.

    Book of Daniel - Wikipedia

    When you claim that there were "amazing prophecies" in it I am curious as to what they are. The ones that Christians rely upon fail due to being overly vague. An overly vague prophecy is almost always a failed prophecy and that is demonstrated by the different dates assigned to it by Christians claiming that a prophecy from Daniel was fulfilled.

    As to the prophecies of the destruction of the temple of Jerusalem the Mark prophecy fails for several reasons. First it is overly vague and also something that is not unexpected. The behavior of the Jews caused the temple to be destroyed in the past and they were heavily resisting the Romans in Jesus's time. The Romans had a history of exacting revenge to keep conquered lands under control. Lastly the events predicted to accompany the destruction did not happen. You cannot pull prophecies out of context. That is quote mining. If you read it in full context that was supposed to be the beginning of the end times. That was almost 2,000 years ago. The end times have not come yet. It fails.

    Matthew and Luke pretty much copied Mark so the same reasoning applies, but for them it was even worse. The temple was destroyed by the time they wrote that but the rest of the events did not happen. They should have known that the prophecy had failed, maybe they did believe that they were in the end days. Even if they believed that their writings should have reflected what had happened.
     
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    No, that is not evidence of the flood. You need to understand the concept of scientific evidence to see why.

    What that is evidence of is slow growth and erosion of mountains over millions of years. There is evidence for that. The rules of scientific evidence apply to all of the sciences, not just flood claims or evolution. Would you care to learn? It is not that hard to understand:

    Scientific evidence is evidence that serves to either support or counter a scientific theory or hypothesis. Such evidence is expected to be empirical evidence and interpretable in accordance with scientific method.

    Scientific evidence - Wikipedia.

    If you do not like Wikipedia I can find many other sources that give the same definition.

    As a rule creationists are afraid to develop a proper testable hypothesis. Without a testable hypothesis by definition one cannot have scientific evidence.
     
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    First off you are ironically breaking the Commandment about false idols by making the Bible an idol. Second it is not just atheists that know this. There are many Christians that have studied this and agree. And that a book of "prophecy" is accurate when it was written after the fact is hardly amazing. Why didn't you read the links to find out how they know when the book was written?
     
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    "Without a testable hypothesis by definition one cannot have scientific evidence."

    That is correct.
    Being they don't have a testable hypothesis for God's existence they cannot have scientific evidence for God's existence.

    However you also don't have a testable hypothesis for God's nonexistence and cannot have scientific evidence for God's nonexistence.

    Arguing whether a God does or doesn't exist is only an argument of beliefs where as one believes God does exist and the other doesn't believe God does exist.

    Neither can be shown true with any scientific evidence which makes them beliefs!

    I know your reply will be you "lack the belief" so how does one argue about something they lack?
     
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    They do not even need a testable hypothesis for God. They only need a hypothesis that explains what we observe. They cannot do that. The idea of trying to refute their own ideas is anathema to them. This is not about the existence or the non-existence of God. It is about the existence or non-existence of an event that would have left evidence. The evidence that we observe tells us that there was no flood.

    Now I have heard that some Christians that God cleaned up his mess. Of course ultimately that is a claim that God lied since the "clean up" left the Earth looking billions of years old and a world that regularly had rain for all of that time. And that is only the geological evidence against the flood.

    I do not demand that they "prove God" I only demand that they show that there is evidence for the Flood of Noah.
     
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    Interesting that he had no problem galloping to the rescue back then but doesn't lift a finger to clean up the even bigger mess of pain, suffering and evil we live with today.
     
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    I thought that title looked familiar.
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    First off you don't know what you are talking about. Your problem is the Bible is just so accurate - your unbelief causes you to think it had to be written after the fact. When in reality God is just flat out awesome.

    When the writer of the book himself states when he was writing, I don't listen to faithless unbelievers trying to convince me it isn't so.
     
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    You have that sooooooooo backwards. You are putting "God glasses" on. That does not allow you to interpret the Bible correctly because you do not understand what it is.

    And you also just broke the Ninth Commandment. Why do people that claim to be Christians do this so often when their book of myths is threatened. Seriously you need to study that Commandment. I do not believe that it was written after the fact due to my unbelief, that is the sort of sin that you perform all the time. I base my disbelief upon the evidence. Once again the article that I posted listed some of the evidence. Is it your fear that kept you from reading it?
     
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