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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by SeekingAllTruth, Jan 29, 2021.

  1. Subduction Zone

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    No, not really. We can date the movement of the plates. What you are suggesting would release a lot of heat. I mean a LOT. You would pretty much cook everything. Over hundreds of millions of years the heat released does not matter very much. If you did it in the short time period that you are talking about you would almost certainly boil the oceans.

    There is no evidence for the flood. Only extremely wild conjecture refuted by reality.
     
  2. TrueBeliever37

    TrueBeliever37 Well-Known Member

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    Finally you are admitting they are accurate! Now your excuse is they are so accurate they had to have been written after the fact.
     
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    No, that is one of the rare accurate "prophecies". That history in the Bible is sometimes written as prophecy after the fact is well known. This is not "my claim". It is the claim of biblical scholars. Another article for you to ignore, since the first one I linked explained how they came to the conclusion that Jeremiah was written well after the fact:

    Burden of proof (philosophy) - Wikipedia

    By the way, studying the Bible entails more than just reading it and swallowing everything hook line and sinker. You should know that. You must know by now that there are mythical stories in the Bible.
     
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    Talk about wild conjecture. What you are stating here as if it was a fact, is just wild conjecture. It didn't say how long this process took so you don't know anything about how much heat would be involved. So quit stating things like they are facts, when you don't really know.
     
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    Put it this way, a few thousand years is far to short for all sorts of reasons. Even if it was merely sped up over 4,000 years you are still talking about releasing heat at a rate 50,000 times greater than is released now. And as I said, we can measure how fast the plates are moving now and how fast they moved in the past. That means I am not the one relying on conjecture here. And then of course there would also be the problem of CO2 being released at 50,000 times its current rate by the Earth. There are natural processes that remove CO2 from the atmosphere, but they are rather slow. Here is a hint, just because you do not understand the science does not mean that the other side is guilty of your sins.
     
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    There is no comparison between the death and resurrection of Jesus and Osiris coming back to life after being killed by his brother Set in a conflict. Was the Jesus Story Stolen From Osiris, Mithra and Other Ancient Gods?

     
  7. TrueBeliever37

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    And we haven't even gotten to the amazing prophecies in Daniel, where he told about the 4 world kingdoms that would come to be. Remember he was taken captive during the Babylonian Captivity. Yet he foretold of the Medo-Persian Empire, and the Grecian Empire, and the Roman Empire. Wow - Amazing prophecy that was fulfilled.

    What was your date you were going to try to give for the prophecy where the Messiah told of the destruction of Jerusalem? - in Matthew 24:1-2 and Mark 13:1-2 and Luke 21:20-21

    You might give a date for Daniel also since he also foretold of the destruction of Jerusalem. Matthew 24:15-16

    By the way, Daniel knew and mentioned Jeremiah's prophecy in Daniel 9:1-2 before they were allowed to go back. Which was also another prophecy that was fulfilled - That they would return after the 70 years.
     
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    You got evidence besides a musty ol' 3000 year book to support that, my friend? ;)
     
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    But you think the continents separated just 6000 years ago, assuming you a literal interpreter of the Bible?
     
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    You know, Believer, you read way too many end-time prophecy fulfillment books ala Late Great Planet Earth. Most of what you're interpreting these things as come straight from the pages of Tim LaHayne, Ron Rhodes and mark Goodwin. These guys are making tons of loot off Christians who lap this stuff up. I am guilty. In my Christian days I was one of the most knowledgeable prophecy scholars out there. In my day it was Lindsey and Salem Kirban and mary Stewart Relfe. I knew about Gog and Magog, Ezekiel's bones, Armageddon, the 7 trumpets, and the mark of the beast. Do you still believe the mark is a barcode tattooed on the forehead or have you moved up to computer chips? In my day it was the barcode ala Jack Chick because we didn't have computer chips then. Oh, if only IF ONLY I had those thousands of $$$'s back that I squandered on that stuff.
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    Don't think I have heard the names you mentioned. Never did believe the mark was a barcode to begin with or computer chips. Too bad you wasted your money on that kind of teaching.
     
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    I just believe whatever God's word says. But it has to be rightly divided. For example I think the Trinity is a false doctrine. Don't get me wrong I don't think I understand everything in the word. But I believe I have understanding in many things.

    Not everything written is literal. Some things have spiritual meanings that only God can help you understand. For instance in Daniel and in Revelation the beasts are not literal beasts - they represent kingdoms.

    As far as the continents, based on my current understanding I do believe it has only been about 6,000 years ago. I believe that God just created things in a state that appears to be much older than it really is. For example If a scientist had examined Adam the day after he was created, he might have thought he was 18 or 20 years old or whatever. But in reality he would have only been 2 days old. I know you think this is ridiculous. But I believe in a God that is All-Mighty and can do anything.
     
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    No, I respect your beliefs.
     
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    You give me an exercise and offer me your help.
    So I showed you my claim and some supporting evidence.

    Then you say that you don't know, and you don't care.

    Thanks anyway for trying to help.

    :facepalm:
     
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    You do not seem to understand. Muslims utterly fail to defend or support their beliefs properly and I do not care about them being wrong enough to learn about Islam for myself. That they are all but guaranteed to be wrong is shown by how they support their beliefs. If you want others to learn about Islam the burden of proof is upon you as a believer and not them as skeptics. And if you cannot support your religion properly (and properly does not mean earning only the applause of fellow Muslims) then you might want to consider that it might not be true.
     
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    Is that the only thing that you heard from what I said and showed?

    I was mentioning something worldwide that can be found in global religious scriptures, myths, and fairytales.

    Do you just want to back away and shrug it off?
    Its ok if you do.
     
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    It was a nothing burger, so yes, I am shrugging it off.
     
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    I thought so.
     
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    Did you really think that you had something? Don't blame others if they find your claims rather banal.
     
  20. TrueBeliever37

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    Unbelievers disputing what the word of God says doesn't prove anything. But at least you have acknowledged the amazing accuracy.
     
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