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Shield of David and Sri Yantra

Fool

ALL in all
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No.

Next.


Ophiolatreia worship was prevalent throughout the world in the past.

in some systems its called shakti, kundalini, shehkinah. in hebrew it's female as it is in many systems. the greeks likened it to a winged serpent and the caduceus wand which is the wand that symbolizes healing.. jesus refers to nehushtan in relation to raising up mankind. nehushtan was the wand that moses used to heal the israelites from serpent bites..
 
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Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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No. Those comparisons are so far out on the limb it's about to break.

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Jainarayan

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So much no, so much wrongness, so much fail. The fail of that chart is epic. Epic failure is epic.

So... no.

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Satyamavejayanti

Well-Known Member
Any chance the two are symbols of the same thing?

Namaste,

No they don't. And this is Why

Tantra-Kundalini.com - Sri Yantra

From the site about Shri Yantra

The Sri Yantra is a configuration of nine interlocking triangles, surrounded by two circles of lotus petals with the whole encased within a gated frame, called the "earth citadel". The nine interlocking triangles centered around the bindu (the central point of the yantra) are drawn by the superimposition of five downward pointing triangles, representing Shakti ; the female principle and four upright triangles, representing Shiva ; the male principle. The nine interlocking triangles form forty three small triangles each housing a presiding deity associated with particular aspects of existence.

Jewish Star of David Meaning, History. What is the Star of David?

From this site about the Shield of David (Star or David)

This six sided figure symbolizes that God rules over the universe and protects us from all six directions: north, south, east, west, up, and down with the middle - the hexagram - providing the spiritual dimension.

The Star of David symbol helps remind us that despite our efforts to accomplish in this world, just like God decided that King David would be successful in defeating armies much greater then his own, so too will God help us accomplish our goals. This is why we say, “Blessed are you God, Shield of David” in the third blessing recited over the reading of the Prophets every Sabbath (read more about The Jewish Sabbath).


Hope this clarifies.
 

Profound Realization

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Any chance the two are symbols of the same thing?

It would seem to resemble the “Anahata” more.

12 petals. Inside are 2 interconnected triangles forming a hexagon having 6 angles.

12 tribes. Inside would be the Shield/Star of David, also having 2 interconnected triangles forming a hexagon and having 6 angles.

For me, these are both equivalent of what transpires within, and are symbolic of the brain and/or heart.
 

Jainarayan

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What's wrong about it?

For one thing it implies a genetic relationship between polytheistic religions. For example, Semitic, Indo-Iranian and Indo-European being branches of the same trunk. It’s the polytheistic equivalent of Adamic language and the Tower of Babel story.

The relationship between Indo-Iranian and Indo-European is completely wrong. If there’s a correspondence between PIE language divergence and religion, Indo-Iranian predates European polytheism by several millennia. That is, European polytheism is a daughter of Indo-Iranian, not a sister as the chart implies. Moreover, I don’t agree that PIE, pre-Vedic and Vedic religion has an animist basis.
 

Jainarayan

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Why not? I believe the current findings point towards animal being the first stage of religious development.

PIE seems to have been based on worship of powers of nature: rain, fire, storms, water, the sun, etc. rather than an overall pantheistic and/or spirit based religion. Those powers then being personified as Zeus, Thor, Indra, Agni, etc.
 

Saint Frankenstein

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PIE seems to have been based on worship of powers of nature: rain, fire, storms, water, the sun, etc. rather than an overall pantheistic and/or spirit based religion. Those powers then being personified as Zeus, Thor, Indra, Agni, etc.
Worshipping storms or believing that there is a supernatural agency behind them is part of animism, too.
 

Jainarayan

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Worshipping storms or believing that there is a supernatural agency behind them is part of animism, too.

That’s true, but it doesn’t necessarily follow that if a tribe worships the local volcano as their god, they would also deify the forest or rivers. The extant texts, e.g. the Rig Veda, Bible, and archaeology don’t point to an animist root. If there is an animist root we can’t prove it. But it’s also true that “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”. However, the chart is making a leap that because there are animist religions today they must have been the norm, that all religions have the same origins.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Namaste,

No they don't. And this is Why

Tantra-Kundalini.com - Sri Yantra

From the site about Shri Yantra

The Sri Yantra is a configuration of nine interlocking triangles, surrounded by two circles of lotus petals with the whole encased within a gated frame, called the "earth citadel". The nine interlocking triangles centered around the bindu (the central point of the yantra) are drawn by the superimposition of five downward pointing triangles, representing Shakti ; the female principle and four upright triangles, representing Shiva ; the male principle. The nine interlocking triangles form forty three small triangles each housing a presiding deity associated with particular aspects of existence.

Jewish Star of David Meaning, History. What is the Star of David?

From this site about the Shield of David (Star or David)

This six sided figure symbolizes that God rules over the universe and protects us from all six directions: north, south, east, west, up, and down with the middle - the hexagram - providing the spiritual dimension.

The Star of David symbol helps remind us that despite our efforts to accomplish in this world, just like God decided that King David would be successful in defeating armies much greater then his own, so too will God help us accomplish our goals. This is why we say, “Blessed are you God, Shield of David” in the third blessing recited over the reading of the Prophets every Sabbath (read more about The Jewish Sabbath).


Hope this clarifies.


In Kabbalah, the two interlocking triangles represent the reciprocal relationship between man and God. Our good deeds are represented by the triangle pointing up to God and God reciprocates by allowing holiness and beneficence to flow towards us. When a Star of David is worn on jewelry, it helps us feel like we are walking with the protection of God and as a reminder of his presence. It also shows our love for the State of Israel.

one is the mundane being lifted up and the other represents the divine falling/descending into the mundane. god is spirit, in hebrew spirit, or ruach, literally transliterates as mind, wind, breath, . so it represents consciousness flowing upward and downward. when the spirit enters into the mundane it is called nephesh in hebrew; which means soul.

the hebrews have a holy mountain in judaism is mount sinai where god came down and gave to moses the Law. high places are considered sacred to many indigenous people. people are also likened to mounds of earth, or clay in the OT; in which the ruach instills itself.

mt olympus is where the greek gods lived.
 
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Fool

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That’s true, but it doesn’t necessarily follow that if a tribe worships the local volcano as their god, they would also deify the forest or rivers. The extant texts, e.g. the Rig Veda, Bible, and archaeology don’t point to an animist root. If there is an animist root we can’t prove it. But it’s also true that “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”. However, the chart is making a leap that because there are animist religions today they must have been the norm, that all religions have the same origins.

if people as a whole evolved from one source, what is the great wonder religions evolving from the same source?
 

Fool

ALL in all
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Read the bottom words on the chart. Even the author admits its all just a guess.


the author admits the dates are a guess. the author doesn't admit that they didn't evolve as they did. research shows that cultures grew/evolved and influenced other cultures. it's not a leap of faith.
 

Jainarayan

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if people as a whole evolved from one source, what is the great wonder religions evolving from the same source?

The belief that people evolved from one source is being overturned. Additionally, while some people believe that all human languages have one ancestor (Proto-World theory) language’s origins are so far back in time there’s no written records or reliable reconstruction methods. So to say that all religions and/or languages have a common root is speculation... actually it’s a flight of fancy.
 
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