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Shekinah's Menstruation.

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by John D. Brey, Aug 13, 2020.

  1. John D. Brey

    John D. Brey Well-Known Member

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    Even though we have delved quite deeply into the concept of the Mikvah, Rabbi Akiba’s statement still seems quite puzzling. How are we to understand his declaration that “God is Israel’s Mikvah?”

    Rabbi Akiba said: Happy are you, Israel. Before whom do you purify yourselves? Who purifies you? Your Father in heaven! It is written (Ezekiel 36:24), “I will sprinkle pure water upon you, and you shall be clean.” And it is written (Jeremiah 14:8), “God (HaShem) is Israel’s Mikvah.” Just as the Mikvah purifies the unclean, so God purifies Israel.

    Mishneh, Yoma
    8:9 (85b).​

    Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, Waters of Eden.​

    The "pure water" being sprinkled on Israel in Ezekiel 36 is clearly the waters of niddah מי נדה produced by the red cow, the parah adumah (since the waters of niddah are required in order to be made "clean" טהור). Midrash Rabbah claims ha-adam is made out of the ashes of the red cow (parah adumah), implying that he's created from the very material through which he will later be atoned (made clean טהור), i.e., the ashes of the red cow, such that, earth-shattering (or powdering) as that revelation might be, it pales in comparison to the simple recognition that if the red cow's powdered flesh, ash עפר (which Rabbi Hirsch calls "blood" once it's liquefied) is what ha-adam comes from, then he's coming from (is created from) the menstruation of the red cow, the blood of parah adumah, the waters of niddah מי נדה.

    There's a saying that blood is thicker than water but apparently it's just as slippery since the statement above has seemingly provide little traction for Jews and Christians to solve the soluble solution (מי נדה) to their differences.



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    BSM1 What? Me worry?

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    I thought you were referring to some pop singer...
     
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    The immersion in ritual purification [the mikveh] . . . is not washing away any filth, Rather, the Mikvah is changing the individual's spiritual status from that of Tomeh [טמא] (unclean) to that of Tahor [טהור] (clean). Actually, this "purification" is a change of status rather than a "cleansing" process . . . emerging from the Mikvah is very much like a process of rebirth . . . the Mikvah represents the womb . . therefore, [the] water represents the womb of creation.

    Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, Waters of Eden.​

    Rabbi Kaplan next surmises that immersion in the mikveh represents, "renewal and rebirth" (Ibid.). And yet ha-adam (the first human) was, and where have we heard this before, born just fine the first time. Which is to say that ha-adam is born from the ultimate mikveh, God's mikveh: Shekinah's menstrual blood מי נדה, "the womb of creation" (R. Kaplan). Which segues into parah adumah, the red cow, too nicely, since in postlapsarian creation (history after the original sin) menstruation is "unclean" טמא such that touching it makes a person "unclean."

    In other words, Shekinah's menstruation מי נדה is "clean," and makes "clean," unlike postlapsarian menstruation which is associated with profane birth, and which, menstrual blood, is "unclean" טהור. Which segues into the question of questions, the problem of problems; the blood in the cross-member, or the cross-hairs, of this examination. What is rebirth? And how does it relate to the waters of niddah מי נדה, and thus Shekinah's menstruation?



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    . . . Mikveh Jagger?



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    Earlier, we spoke of how the Mikvah represents the womb . . . Niddah, however, is a sign of the imperfection of the human reproductive process, especially the womb. Therefore, the purification and rectification of Niddah must be a return to the perfected "womb" that is the Mikvah.

    Ibid.​

    The very water required to purify one born of the imperfection of reproduction after Adam's sin, is called the waters of niddah (manufactured from the sacrifice of the parah adumah). So the rectification of niddah, noted above (by Rabbi Kaplan), must be a return to the perfect womb of Shekinah (the womb of creation), and thus the menstrual blood of Shekinah, which, far from making unclean, makes one as clean as the driven snow, as clean as Isaiah's bleached wool.

    The problem, from a Jewish perspective (the perspective of modern Judaism) is that the foregoing makes the parah adumah, the red cow, emblematic of the place of ha-adam's atonement and creation (since they're the same place), and the problem with that is that if this is the case, as the syllogistic logic of the foregoing implies, then why don't Jews know this? Why doesn't Judaism teach this?

    In other words, Judaism teaches that ha-adam is created from the red אדמה ash עפר of the altar [of] earth אדמה. They know, and teach, that ha-adam is created from the place of his being made clean, his atonement. They know this is the ash עפר of the red אדמה cow פרה (they probably also know that פרה means "to bear," as a mother bears her offspring). And yet, knowing that God creates, bears, and later atones for, ha-adam, Jews, and Judaism, to a man, or woman, would look as shocked as a cow in the headlights if you told them parah adumah represents God, or Shekinah.

    How, why, that should be the case, is as great a paradox as is the fact that the waters of niddah מי נדה make the good guys, the already clean טהור, unclean טמא, at the same time they make the unclean טמא, clean טהור. . . Which is to say that if Judaism's understanding of the law, the Torah, is clean, already, then understanding the decree of the parah adumah would make Judaism's understanding of the Torah unclean, while if the dirty (unclean) Christian's understanding of the law, the Torah, is unclean, understanding the decree of the parah adumah would make it clean.

    Which shines a bright light, or lamp, onto the topic, and perhaps into the eyes of the Jew shocked to hear that parah adumah is God, or his Shekinah, since, paradoxically, the dirty Christian, with unclean readings of the Torah, but, who, the Christian, perhaps has his understanding made clean by parah adumah, implies that God, Shekinah, was taken from the temple precinct, taken outside the gates of Jerusalem, like a leper needing to be cleaned (with cedar, scarlet wool, and hyssop) before he could come back insides ---and is slaughtered as a sacrifice, his very blood becoming the purifying flow through which those unclean can be made clean, those born dirty at the first birth, goyim and Christians, can enter into this particular mikveh and be born-again clearer than the clean-ness of those come through the mikveh inside the gates of Jerusalem. Mishnah Parah claims the waters of niddah מי נדה, the menstrual blood of Shekinah, are cleaner than the waters of Jerusalem's mikveh. How can that be? What does that even mean?



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    According to Jewish scripture (Mishnah Parah), the waters of niddah, the menstrual blood manufactured from the red cow, is cleaner than the water of the typical mikveh used to purify a Jewish niddah, i.e., a Jewish menstruant. This distinction is extremely important in understanding the blood-paradox caught up in the cross-member, and the cross-hairs, of this discussion. We'd need to understand both waters to have any chance of distinguishing between them. And knowing the nature of one should shine a light on the other.

    The thread, Holy Water, Holy Cow, Holy Crap, (made into an essay) dealt with the nature of the water of the typical mikveh. The essay ended with the question this one is trying to answer: how on earth can any water be cleaner than the water of the mikveh? What does the suggestion there is such a thing imply?

    The essay noted above explains how just like the supernal mikveh related to Shekinah's menstruation (and womb), the commonplace mikveh represents the typical womb, such that the "waters" are the menstruation blood. But this makes the cleansing associated with the traditional mikveh use menstrual blood just like the waters of niddah associated with the parah adumah. How can a Jewish woman's menstrual blood be clean טהור when menstrual blood is supposed to be unclean טמא? And for the Jew who would be appalled at the idea of menstrual blood being clean, one need only appreciate that the very water used to make anything clean is called "menstrual blood" מי נדה.

    Without covering ground already covered in the thread on Holy Water and the Holy Cow (and his holy crap), suffice it to say that understanding how the menstrual blood of a Jewish woman can be clean merely requires understanding how the blood of circumcision is clean טהור rather than unclean טמא. Since blood represents death, and the corpse is the symbol of death, we can know that the organ cut and bled in brit milah, ritual circumcision, is the first corpse of humanity. Rabbi Hirsch explains that "unclean-ness" isn't so much related to a corpse, as a corpse is symptomatic of the problem of death in the human race.

    Death didn't exist when ha-adam came from the womb of Shekinah, when he was cloned from her menstrual blood. It didn't exist until the desecration that takes place in Genesis 2:21, where ha-adam's female body (cloned from Shekinah's blood) is cut, opened up, and the wound is covered up by sewing the labial flesh together (the penile-raphe) to form the first phallus. What Abraham removes, symbolically, ha-adam had added, really: the fleshly corpse gallivanting not as what it is, the tree branch of death, but as though it were the very delivery mechanism of life, which it ain't.

    Since the phallus is the living-corpse that transfers death in every pregnancy where it opens up the earth, or the flesh, or the veil of the virgin temple, the death of the phallus, far from representing any ole death, is the death of death itself, and thus the birth of everlasting life, of clean-ness from the sin of ha-adam that brought about death in the first place, the garden.

    Since brit milah, ritual circumcision, represents the death of death, that blood, the blood of the first corpse, is, ironically, or paradoxically, the life-blood of everlasting life. The death of death isn't like any other death. The death of death is the birth of everlasting life.

    Ergo, where circumcision is appreciated as a wedding ritual, performed by the father-in-law, under the chuppah, the post-chuppah menstruation of the Jewish woman represents the same thing as the circumcision blood of the male. Not only does his emasculation (at the hands of the father-in-law) render the living corpse dead, but since this corpse is not only the emblem of death, and thus uncleanness, but the source of both, the death of the phallus renders the womb of the Jewish bride clean as the driven snow; and thus the blood of menstruation is no less clean than circumcision blood after circumcision.

    Part and parcel of this is the fact that once the signifier of masculinity is destroyed, the male flesh, the distinction between the blood of the groom, and the blood of the bride, is also extinguished, such that both bloods are the same, and both bloods are eternally clean.

    Which is merely a circuitous path back to the big question. If circumcision renders the womb of the Jewish bride clean, and thus her womb represents the traditional mikveh, why would the blood, menstruation, of Shekinah, be required, and how is it supposed to be cleaner than the blood of the Jewish bride after her groom has sacrificed his masculinity to make her and he equal under the law, and before God?



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    Maybe he thought Shakira's menstruation.
     
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    In human sciences, re introduced and re built science pyramid technology that had in fact a long time ago destroyed life on Earth....seeing human artefacts found in coal, proof. As was machinery parts found inside of stone fusion, that proof.

    Re heard, in AI speaking of voice conditions, via changed brain bio chemistry, after dinosaur life made extinct by the water gas cooling mass ICE.

    Relative Jesus Christ rebirth Genetic story said only due to ICE REMASS every end of Year in December did the spiritual gas heavenly stable state allow the Immaculate gas spirits, CHRIST history, the gases that had arisen out of stone mass into spatial womb, exist/be returned and owned.

    To support the holy human baby and animal baby life to continue and be born in a stable nuclear state. As opposed to UFO irradiation/fall out as caused by machine science, history of the OCCULT.

    After the ICE AGE males were living born to the human female ovary, through her menstrual period. The bleeding of the female womb, exists before the o cell, from whence a baby male liar came from, who grew into a Satanic theist scientist, said string theories...yet his personal male human bio life was involved in the thesis....seeing bio life was the human Designer of it first.

    So ignoring the fact of why his cell life began to bleed unnaturally for his life body and o cell came from the female ovary and not his first God thesis of a long time ago, pyramid/mountain UFO mass removal real flooded Earth thesis.

    Hence science of the medical healer association in philosophy said he had harmed not only the human female real Mother life, in that attack, the ovary, he also destroyed his own natural cell health so it bled unnaturally.

    Just because in reality his baby to male adult science self had been reborn via human sex and not by some form of God thesis about our UFO alienation/dinosaur giant mutation. Which he discusses in the science theme, claiming that his own science male self a long time ago had caused the presence giant life to live in the heavenly body, seeing males and as humans also live inside of the heavenly body.

    Teaching is what is relative to self in advice. Above our heads is just sky, what he first pondered about the presence of natural light itself, 12 hours of the Day gases burning. God the stone mass cold gas, not burning was what he wanted to convert, in scientific thesis...why he sent us to Hell in the past for he set the atmospheric body alight.....true story.

    Why STephen Hawking warned him about his fake God theories today as a scientist understanding spatial relativity and not telling lies, as the God theist once had, as proof to self, why his cells bled.....for natural self bio life does take his natural life body back to the human ovary in a bleeding womb.
     
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    . . . I'd appreciate you not plagiarizing this thread. There appears to be word-for-word quotations not properly cited. FYI, I have a patent on word-salads. So on top of plagiarism, and failure to properly punctuate quotations, you appear to be in violation of patent law.



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    Are you saying that a forum is a book and copyright, so therefore you should not be quoting what has been said before or quoted before as somebody else's ideas?

    Menstruation as a word is a one of female owned bodily natural condition, and its reference is not owned anywhere else.
     
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    . . . Oh hell. Your message was serious? . . . Sorry. I thought you were pulling my leg by just posting garbled text.



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    You mean occultist lying historically as known by your male psyche, memory and self awareness....the theist storytelling b.s. artist!

    When a human is not in a group coerced, or they join a group in some belief, it is the observed mentality of that group to attack the individual for all group purposed controlled coercion. This sort of human behaviour is historic.

    Then you look at Jesus. One self. Then you see the Christian movement, lots of individuals shunned in society by all other groups, involved in culture, involved in theosophy and also under government idealism, involving gain of monetary benefits in trade.

    The history.

    And occult literature that uses symbolic references to hide behind a thesis against self.

    Look at what that one male succeeded in detailing about the occult irradiation phenomena attack on his life.

    Today it is no different to UFO victims gathering together for some comfort, it is the same old, same old reason. Same abuses, same excuses.

    Even the Jesus documented mathematical probability of cosmological causes said the attack on his life would return in the future, and it did.

    And still today you want to lie about a theist attitude who claims in his thoughts he thinks on behalf of everything and anything else, when it is self owned, natural, existing naturally and does not need his opinion about it.

    Hence when you tried to string a theory about creation involving 2 human beings, one of those human beings, the female Mother menstruated. The ovary the cell from which your little baby life began, owned that history.

    What do you male self propose would happen to you, if when you died before you were living a family life and science destroyed it? You would return as the baby Father again and do it all over again.

    And after the Ice Age after evolution of DNA, the science self returned and did it again.

    Yet his life is after the death of giant beasts who lived in the atmosphere....beasts, animals.

    What form of symbolism would your occult brain be affected by in scientific references, when the whole time you were belonging to a female bleeding womb and an ovary?

    Beasts.

    And what do you think you did to your adult male human life cell due to coming out of that ovah? The ova, ovary and H changed the terrestrial ground magnetism? As a symbol. You caused your own male cell to bleed, as conjurer and causation of occult radiation UFO science.

    All status for phenomena of causes.
     
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