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Sharia Law in the UK

justify

My mind
I think it should not be instated, some have tryed this here in Canada, and it has ben refused by the supreem court.

I think these laws were not in accordance with the constitution.
 

misanthropic_clown

Active Member
I seem to recall that the Archbishop of Canterbury made the suggestion of making some limited implementations of Sharia Law in the UK, mainly concerning civil dispute resolutions. It was met with massive public outcry and criticism, so I do not think the political climate is at all friendly to the idea, particularly given that this group seems to be seeking a much more comprehensive Sharia law system.

Uproar over Archbishop's sharia law stance - Telegraph

I personally do not think that such a system should be implemented. I do not see it as fit for justice for there to be one set of laws for one group, and another for others.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Well the 31st has come and gone.
I saw and heard nothing about it.

The laws in this country must comply with the EEC laws where appropriate.
There is no possibility that we will ever be subject to sharia law.
 

ragordon168

Active Member
it seems a bit ridiculous it is even being discussed in the UK. if we went to the middle east and demanded US/UK style laws there (without a nato taskforce to back it up) we would be laughed at, or worse.

you emigrate to a new country you accept their laws, language and customs, thats just the way it works. i think its daft that people move to a country but never bother to learn the language.
 

Perfect Circle

Just Browsing
it seems a bit ridiculous it is even being discussed in the UK. if we went to the middle east and demanded US/UK style laws there (without a nato taskforce to back it up) we would be laughed at, or worse.

you emigrate to a new country you accept their laws, language and customs, thats just the way it works. i think its daft that people move to a country but never bother to learn the language.

I agree. I'm all for immigration, and global unity, but when you move to a country, you should respect their laws, traditions, and language. You shouldn't try to change it into the place you came from.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Hi Perfect Circle, I'm from the UK.

I'm very familiar with Islam4UK, I've even viewed their website and read their insane articles, and to my conclusion I believe the group (Al-Muhajiroun) along with it's "parent group" Islamic Thinkers Society is nothing but Agent Provocateurs.

Curently, Anjem Choudary leads Islam4UK, last I heard he's receiving state Benefits (i.e paid by the Government), which is bizare considering he's so well-known in the UK. His website and group also get ridiculous publicity, considering their tiny size. Hell I even remember seeing one article about the recent "March4Sharia" claiming to expect 5,000 Muslims there! How many showed up? Zero. It was conveniently cancelled the night before and annouced on their website.

Still, they managed to attract Moderate groups and other counter-protesters, including the EDL - which ended up causing trouble in Leeds that day I think. Without a single Islam4UK member attending, they were able to stir up trouble and get a colossal amount of publicity leading up to the event, which further tarnish all Muslims under the same brush - therefore, they had achieved their objective as far as I'm concerned.

In practically all the UK papers, there's always some article about Islam4UK or Anjem Choudary "Preacher of Hate" or "Now Muslims demand full Sharia Law" etc.

It's all just deliberate mis-representation of UK Muslims, by trying to "group" them all together under the banner of Choudary. In that respect, Islam4UK is actually doing Islam and British Muslims a major disservice - but then again, as far as I'm concerned, that's their goal.

Oh, and also Anjem Choudary was caught drinking beer, smoking weed, and reading Pornography in his Student years, an article in the Mail uncovered that.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1161909/Swilling-beer-smoking-dope-leering-porn-hate-preacher-Andy-Choudary.html
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
I'd like to hear people's responses to this. I don't live in the UK, so any insight into it from someone who actually lives there would be nice.

I don't know if it took place, but regarding sharia.. *rant*

I'm extremely opposed to sharia law in the UK, or in any Western country, even a little.

If a small group Muslims want sharia law so bad, there are plenty of countries that hold it, like Somalia, Saudi Arabia and Iran. Those that want to live under sharia can go to one of those countries, and leave those Muslims who don't want to live under it alone. My doctor is Muslim and does not want to live under sharia law either.

I prefer my religion and politics separate, equality for all regardless of race, colour or creed, as well as no stoning, dismembering, beheading, nor killing of apostates.

*end of rant*
Wow, I sound like a bigot. :D
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Odion said:
Wow, I sound like a bigot. :D


Only according to the PC-Brigade.



Tsk, who on Earth are you to want to preserve your own country's Values, Law, and Culture!?

Disgracefull.

:p
 

Perfect Circle

Just Browsing
Hi Perfect Circle, I'm from the UK.

I'm very familiar with Islam4UK, I've even viewed their website and read their insane articles, and to my conclusion I believe the group (Al-Muhajiroun) along with it's "parent group" Islamic Thinkers Society is nothing but Agent Provocateurs.

Curently, Anjem Choudary leads Islam4UK, last I heard he's receiving state Benefits (i.e paid by the Government), which is bizare considering he's so well-known in the UK. His website and group also get ridiculous publicity, considering their tiny size. Hell I even remember seeing one article about the recent "March4Sharia" claiming to expect 5,000 Muslims there! How many showed up? Zero. It was conveniently cancelled the night before and annouced on their website.

Still, they managed to attract Moderate groups and other counter-protesters, including the EDL - which ended up causing trouble in Leeds that day I think. Without a single Islam4UK member attending, they were able to stir up trouble and get a colossal amount of publicity leading up to the event, which further tarnish all Muslims under the same brush - therefore, they had achieved their objective as far as I'm concerned.

In practically all the UK papers, there's always some article about Islam4UK or Anjem Choudary "Preacher of Hate" or "Now Muslims demand full Sharia Law" etc.

It's all just deliberate mis-representation of UK Muslims, by trying to "group" them all together under the banner of Choudary. In that respect, Islam4UK is actually doing Islam and British Muslims a major disservice - but then again, as far as I'm concerned, that's their goal.

Oh, and also Anjem Choudary was caught drinking beer, smoking weed, and reading Pornography in his Student years, an article in the Mail uncovered that.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1161909/Swilling-beer-smoking-dope-leering-porn-hate-preacher-Andy-Choudary.html

Interesting... There's a lot of things in here that I didn't realize. Thanks Paul!
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
The UK should deport the members of that group to a Sharia state.


Many people have said that to them on their website, what do they say in response?

That there does not exist a "true" Sharia state at this moment in time. They have this obsession with the Ottoman Empire, and claim that was the last "true" Sharia state.

Basically, they're trying to dodge all the flak from supporting current Islamic states because most of them are poor, ravaged areas. Instead they opt to support a state which ended in the early 20th century - mostly because they're hoping no-one would know anything about the Ottoman Empire's history to draw conclusions that it was just as mad, if not worse than the current-day Muslim world.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Islam wants total world dominance and will do anything to attempt getting it.
 
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