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Sharia law allows husband to beat wife and children, says UAE court

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Autodidact, Oct 18, 2010.

  1. Autodidact

    Autodidact Intentionally Blank

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    Sharia law allows a husband to physically discipline his wife and child, as long as it is not too severe. The beating should not leave bruises, injuries or other marks, according to the UAE court.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Sad. :(

    The courts of all nations should be preventing spousal and child abuse and punishing those who do it, not saying it's okay within limits.
     
  3. Father Heathen

    Father Heathen uǝɥʇɐǝH ɹǝɥʇɐℲ

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    Shara law is an affront to humanity and the civilized world.
     
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    May the wife correct her husband in the same manner?
     
  5. Just_me_Mike

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    When will the non religious come out with the new universal set of commandments for human kind?
    It seems the human mind is in an environment that would allow such things. So what shall it be? Obviously first on the list is no physical correction of spouses and children (unless it is allowed by all parties???)

    What else?
     
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    Remember, Autodidact, this ruling should not be confused with what Sharia Law really says. No, really. This reminds me of the beatings that some unsavory police officers dole out that do not leave bruises on the victim.

    I must say that I am somewhat horrified that men have the legal right to beat anyone not their own size. How unseemly.
     
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    And you find this surprising?
     
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    I find it suprising that it is not suprising.
     
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    No, it isn't surprising but it does dismay me. :(
     
  12. Autodidact

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    Who decides what Sharia law "really" says, and on what basis?
     
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    Thats horrible obviously.

    This is an existing opinion amongst Muslims, that a husband can discipline his wife, but in a certain limit. That limit, according to that opinion is to be honest very small, so it wouldn't allow any damage. Don't misunderstand me and think i'm justifying, my point with this is that the problem isn't in the hurt or damage that women might endure due to this, but rather whats bad about this is the light women are viewed in by people who agree with this rule. As people who approve of this rule, usually see men as having at least a bit of authority, rightful authority i mean.
     
  14. Autodidact

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    On what do they base their view?
     
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    Governments do, for all intensive purposes, seeing how they are the only modern day institution with the ability to enforce its decisions.
     
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    An interpretation of a verse in the Quran, and a Hadith (possibly more than one hadith, i'm not sure).

    According to both the verse and the hadith (if interpreted in a certain way), a man can discipline his wife, but in certain limits. However, that verse has many possible interpretations, and seeing that there are conflicting or contradicting hadiths regarding this issue, a lot of people don't agree with such interpretation.

    Some hadiths show the prophet talking about how bad it is to beat one's wife, and then sleep next to them in bed (in other words conveying that we shouldn't beat our wives). And in regards to the verse, there are actually more convincing and more likely interpretations for it than this one which proposes that it means to beat one's wife in a certain situation.
     
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    my thoughts?

    it's beyond ridiculous.
    why on earth would courts feel the need to make such asinine rulings anyway?

    just another example of ignorance and barbarism. :(
     
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    unfortunately, this is the most common interpretation in many Muslim-populated countries...i don't understand why though. :(

    yes, and again, those ahadith are often buried and disregarded.
     
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    Because men are interpreting it , men have always interpreted it, and certain men need power and use violence to get it , they need justification for this violence so what better than the woman's own religion to justify it.
     
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    totally agree.

    and seriously people...where did this idea of "disciplining" one's wife come from? i married my husband as a free-thinking, consenting adult. i don't need nor desire to be disciplined like a child. been there, done that...with MY PARENTS. i don't discipline my husband, and he sure as hell sees no reason to discipline me. are SOME men really that insecure that they feel like they have to have a WRITTEN rule (or even an understood one) that allows them to discipline their wives? :sarcastic ...and i don't need fatwas to tell me i can discipline my children either...for God's sake, do they not have anything better to do than to write out these ridiculous "fatwas"?

    a good marriage will have a respectful understanding of each other's needs and expectations of one another. sure there will be disagreements, but they can surely be resolved with compromise and respect on both sides...NOT "DISCIPLINE". what, is he going to ground me? i dare him to try. :p
     
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