Sheesh, some people do not have a partner.
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Sexual self-pleasure ~ a dead end street
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Sheesh, some people do not have a partner.
Cooky
Veteran Member
Some people tend to get a little caught up in it.
Cooky
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Why not? Everyone deserves a partner if they want one.
That is certainly more fulfilling than masturbation, and considering how short life is a more logical use of time for most people although people don't use our time logically for the most part.
Mmm....yeah. I don't know what women think, but its definitely frustrating which two caveats. There are health benefits to do this infrequently. Also human beings have a very strong sex drive, and doing this can temporarily relieve some of it. Abstaining will also decrease it, and yes there is more mental discipline in abstaining but no real advantage. Making a rule out of it seems like a mistake, depending upon your life mission. It makes sense if your mission is to always be working, always praying, always killing the deeds of the flesh never wasting time, but in that case there is no need for a rule. For example it makes no sense to exclude masturbation but waste time on movies, chess, basketball, mathematical play etc. You could be out helping people with mental diseases or old people, couldn't you? You are wasting time in that case. If masturbating is a serious sin then I think it should fall under 'Idleness' mostly. Perhaps mentally not.
Yes they do but it cannot and does not always happen for various reasons.
Deserve? Hardly.
To have a partner requires that you *be* a partner. Some people are unwilling to do the work that involves. Such people do not *deserve* a partner, no matter how much they want one.
Having a partner isnt a right. It is a privilege. Nobody deserves such.
whirlingmerc
Well-Known Member
You could make a similar comparison between a one night stand and a deep oneness from a long term relationshipI've heard many people brag about the fact that they sexually self-pleasure themselves, and what a healthy life choice this is. But in the long run, doesn't it seem repetative and unfulfilling?
Try for example, setting an entire day aside as a test. Begin in the morning and let it last until the late afternoon just before bedtime, or even into the night, and see how fulfilling this is.
...Then try loving an actual person for a day, taking them out for breakfast, doing nice favors for them and having actual intercourse with that human being. Spend time with that person sharing ideas and thoughts.
Then tell me which is more fulfilling.
In the end, you will quickly realize what the human reproductive system is specifically designed for and what is not. Use this in your life, to become a more pure person. Be true to yourself.
I've heard many people brag about the fact that they sexually self-pleasure themselves, and what a healthy life choice this is. But in the long run, doesn't it seem repetative and unfulfilling?
Try for example, setting an entire day aside as a test. Begin in the morning and let it last until the late afternoon just before bedtime, or even into the night, and see how fulfilling this is.
...Then try loving an actual person for a day, taking them out for breakfast, doing nice favors for them and having actual intercourse with that human being. Spend time with that person sharing ideas and thoughts.
Then tell me which is more fulfilling.
In the end, you will quickly realize what the human reproductive system is specifically designed for and what is not. Use this in your life, to become a more pure person. Be true to yourself.
Someone said it is sex with the only person we love and we will never part from.
Ciao
- viole
Why are you assuming that everyone is satisfied from sexual intercourse? I'm assuming you mean penis in vagina penetration. That's a very cishet male viewpoint. If I didn't masturbate, I'd never have an orgasm and that includes from penetrative sex. I have to do it myself or it won't happen. So your advice is garbage to me and to many others. Worry about yourself and stop generalizing.I've heard many people brag about the fact that they sexually self-pleasure themselves, and what a healthy life choice this is. But in the long run, doesn't it seem repetative and unfulfilling?
Try for example, setting an entire day aside as a test. Begin in the morning and let it last until the late afternoon just before bedtime, or even into the night, and see how fulfilling this is.
...Then try loving an actual person for a day, taking them out for breakfast, doing nice favors for them and having actual intercourse with that human being. Spend time with that person sharing ideas and thoughts.
Then tell me which is more fulfilling.
In the end, you will quickly realize what the human reproductive system is specifically designed for and what is not. Use this in your life, to become a more pure person. Be true to yourself.
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
I have a healthy prostate. No more than twice a year ejaculation. If I feel Love inside, there is no thought of "wanting to ejaculate at all". If I get the thought to do it, I first check where my emotional imbalance is, where I lost my feeling of Love. If I restore that, the desire is gone quickly.
This kind of scientific outcome I don't buy "avoiding prostate cancer by ejaculating 21 times a month"
Cancer has more to do with emotional imbalances (anger, jealousy, hate ...), bad habits and your genes
All cigarettes they sell in Holland have quotes and pictures (you get cancer when smoking these)
That is a sure way to get more cancer if you can't stop smoking (guilty feeling and voodoo msg)
Same if you suppress your urges and get emotional upset, that might create troubles
Or if you please the other while being not happy doing so, that is unhealthy
Cancer has nothing to do with your emotions. That's quackery.
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
That's quite a statement "nothing to do with emotions". You must be Omniscient.
You're the one claiming that emotions help to cause cancer, which there's no evidence for, unless you'd like to cite it?
I am sure you do have a healthy prostate, for now. Prostate cancer is the most common form of cancer suffered by men. The research suggests frequent ejaculation reduces the risk of prostate cancer. Whether you buy into the medical research or not is not my problem. I suggest though that you do your own research.
BTW, my info comes from the NHS {UK health service) website Frequent ejaculation may decrease prostate cancer risk
You may also wish to look at the havard medical school findings Does frequent ejaculation help ward off prostate cancer? - Harvard Health Blog
There is much more confirmatory info on the internet
Liu
Well-Known Member
I'm asexual, I don't have any interest in having sex with others.
So what am I to do?
Admittedly, I did notice that I was drifting into a bit of a porn addiction and, in order to practice some strength of will, I haven't masturbated (at least not using the main erogenous zones) since end of November or so, and want to keep to that at least until spring equinox. Also haven't frequented my main porn sources for a full week now.
The advantage of it is that one has much more time to spend on other things. Besides that I have not really noticed any certain difference. Possibly one feels other sorts of pleasures more strongly, but that's hard to be sure of.
The disadvantage is of course denying oneself pleasure, and needing to invest some mental strength one may or may not have available for using for other aims otherwise.
So what am I to do?
Admittedly, I did notice that I was drifting into a bit of a porn addiction and, in order to practice some strength of will, I haven't masturbated (at least not using the main erogenous zones) since end of November or so, and want to keep to that at least until spring equinox. Also haven't frequented my main porn sources for a full week now.
The advantage of it is that one has much more time to spend on other things. Besides that I have not really noticed any certain difference. Possibly one feels other sorts of pleasures more strongly, but that's hard to be sure of.
The disadvantage is of course denying oneself pleasure, and needing to invest some mental strength one may or may not have available for using for other aims otherwise.
Although stress can cause a number of physical health problems, the evidence that it can cause cancer is weak. Some studies have indicated a link between various psychological factors and an increased risk of developing cancer, but others have not
Psychological Stress and Cancer
It seems the evidence for frequent ejaculation is far stronger
As Keynes said....
"In the long run, we're all dead."
So don't get to worked up about your every act having lasting meaning.
"In the long run, we're all dead."
So don't get to worked up about your every act having lasting meaning.
Both self masturbation and mutual masturbation are a part of my husband and my relationship. May not work for you but it does for us. It has certainly never been a 'dead end' for us.
Upon further thought I think of this much like my love of hiking. I love hiking both with and without my husband.
But my husband has a bum knee and can't hike as much as I can. If he asks me to wait for him to be ready, I will. Because hiking with him is preferable to hiking alone most times. But also I know that he won't make me wait for him when he's not going to be ready to hike any time soon. And because I can hike faster and longer there are times when hiking with him wont be satisfactory. But most of the time we hike together when we can. He doesn't force me to stay when he can't hike and I don't force him to go each time with me.
And there is the dirtiest hiking allegory I've ever made. xD
But my husband has a bum knee and can't hike as much as I can. If he asks me to wait for him to be ready, I will. Because hiking with him is preferable to hiking alone most times. But also I know that he won't make me wait for him when he's not going to be ready to hike any time soon. And because I can hike faster and longer there are times when hiking with him wont be satisfactory. But most of the time we hike together when we can. He doesn't force me to stay when he can't hike and I don't force him to go each time with me.
And there is the dirtiest hiking allegory I've ever made. xD
Skwim
Veteran Member
Ever wonder why women have a clitoris? Well it ain't there for reproduction,
So the more I use my reproductive system the purer I'll be? In other words, women should, in fact, be pumping out kids like a Pez dispenser. Interesting, particularly in light of how the world is increasingly becoming over populated.
Okay, where's that box of Kleenex? . . . . . . . . . I'll be back in a minuet.
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