Sex strike

[Shiranui117]

So, liberal women are not going to have sex with men and thus remove any chance of having an unwanted pregnancy and thereby having any abortions?

This is the biggest win the pro-life crowd could have possibly asked for.

Also, sucks for the liberal men who these liberal women date. Poor guys aren't even disagreeing with them on the abortion issue, and they're the ones being punished! Meanwhile conservative guys are just gonna keep on dating conservative girls and waiting until marriage to have kids. This sex strike affects literally not a single conservative person in the country.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Anal?

He did say that Alyssa Milano had backdoored her way into sexual morality. Seems like a pretty progressive idea for a fundie to suggest that is sexual morality.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

One could always go for the Catholic option:

Always hilarious.

That and another option. A third, if you can get your partner to give a helping hand.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sure abstinence is an option.

Are you suggesting that you do not have agency over your own sexual desires?

Abstinence has a terrible failure rate. It often raises the number of abortions in an area.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You are changing the argument since your prior one was obviously wrong. And to this claim I only need to ask" So what? "

I wonder why he thinks shooting confetti is the default option to arguments of sex for the sake of pleasure over the primacy of biological function? What are they teaching in home school these days?

 

[Enoch07]

I have always thought of it as another form of communication.

It can be. I won't argue with that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Always hilarious.

That and another option. A third, if you can get your partner to give a helping hand.

The girls cover that topic too:

 

[Enoch07]

Abstinence has a terrible failure rate. It often raises the number of abortions in an area.

No it doesn't. Abstinence is 100% guarantee of no pregnancy!

Its peoples failure to adhere to abstinence that has a high failure rate.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So, liberal women are not going to have sex with men and thus remove any chance of having an unwanted pregnancy and thereby having any abortions?

This is the biggest win the pro-life crowd could have possibly asked for.

Also, sucks for the liberal men who these liberal women date. Poor guys aren't even disagreeing with them on the abortion issue, and they're the ones being punished! Meanwhile conservative guys are just gonna keep on dating conservative girls and waiting until marriage to have kids. This sex strike affects literally not a single conservative person in the country.

Yeah right, like Donald Trump. If one is seriously against abortion one should be pro Planned Parenthood since their first approach is education and providing birth control. Abortion rates are lower where Planned Parenthood is operating.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No it doesn't. Abstinence is 100% guarantee of no pregnancy!

Its peoples failure to adhere to abstinence that has a high failure rate.

Nope, it fails quite often. You do not seem to understand human nature.

 

[Shiranui117]

Yeah right, like Donald Trump. If one is seriously against abortion one should be pro Planned Parenthood since their first approach is education and providing birth control. Abortion rates are lower where Planned Parenthood is operating.

Planned Parenthood never once did anything in my community. My high school just had a really good sex ed class where we went over all the different kinds of contraception, vasectomies, morning-after pill, getting your tubes tied, inserts, condoms, STD's, etc., but we also noted how abstinence has an 100% effectiveness rate if you actually do it.

There is nothing wrong with abstinence education. Just point out how not having sex is a more reliable form of contraception when used.

 

[Polymath257]

That's not accepting the consequence that's destroying the consequence.

If you discuss ahead of time, that is planning for the consequences. Sorry, but abortion is something that should be available since birth control does, in fact, fail occasionally.

And sorry, but not having sex, especially when in a relationship, is not an option. If you can't see that, then I don't know what else to say.

 

[Stevicus]

Alyssa Milano's sex strike is misguided. Here's what actually might work (opinion) - CNN

Hmmmm so she's encouraging women to not have sex to negate the risk of pregnancy?

Congratulations, you just backdoored your way into sexual morality! You shouldn't be having sex with anyone, your not prepared to have a child with!

I hope all liberal women join Alyssa Milano and support her sex strike. She might make moral people out of pro-choice supporters after all!

Does she want men to join the sex strike as well? What if we all go on strike?

 

[Polymath257]

Sure abstinence is an option.

Are you suggesting that you do not have agency over your own sexual desires?

No, I am suggesting that abstinence causes a lot of harm in a relationship. The benefits of having sex far outweigh the dangers *if* birth control and abortion are available.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

The girls cover that topic too:

I forgot about that one.

The dichotomy of how cute and innocent they look compared to the subject matter of their songs and the frank approach they use really adds to the overall effect.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Does she want men to join the sex strike as well? What if we all go on strike?

I did that. I was 100% successful too. And that was even before I told the ladies about the strike.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Does she want men to join the sex strike as well? What if we all go on strike?

Yeah. You can either go to the trouble of telling women you don't want sex, or you can shave your eyebrows off and put comic strips where they used to be. It will send the same message either way.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Planned Parenthood never once did anything in my community. My high school just had a really good sex ed class where we went over all the different kinds of contraception, vasectomies, morning-after pill, getting your tubes tied, inserts, condoms, STD's, etc., but we also noted how abstinence has an 100% effectiveness rate if you actually do it.

There is nothing wrong with abstinence education. Just point out how not having sex is a more reliable form of contraception when used.

Except that abstinence fails with teenagers at a very high rate. Also how do you know that Planned Parenthood did nothing for your community? When it comes to young people and their sexual behavior you appear to be a little on the out of touch side.

How Planned Parenthood Reduces Abortion Rates

 

[Polymath257]

If you haven't had that type of discussion ahead of time then your definitely not prepared to engage in sex. Agreed?

If you aren't discussing the possible consequences, then you aren't ready to have sex.

I chose sterilization because I don't want to reproduce, don't want to give up the benefits of sex, and don't want to worry about someone else sticking me with child support.

 

[Polymath257]

No it doesn't. Abstinence is 100% guarantee of no pregnancy!

Its peoples failure to adhere to abstinence that has a high failure rate.

Depends on what, exactly, you mean by abstinence. Is oral sex abstinence? How about mutual masturbation?

It seems to be that demanding people be abstinent when they don't want to have children is irrational and a strategy doomed to failure. Sex is way too important as a binder in relationships. Yes, even those married people who don't want to have children.