Service to All as Self or Service to Self

[Fool]

which type of service is optimal and why, service to all as self, or service to self only?

 

[dybmh]

Both have their pros and cons; Everything in moderation.

Ecclesiastes 3:1 To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven:

 

[Audie]

Both have their pros and cons; Everything in moderation.

Ecclesiastes 3:1 To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven:

 

[Fool]

Both have their pros and cons; Everything in moderation.

Ecclesiastes 3:1 To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven:

one is more pro than the other where otherness is contrast

 

[dybmh]

one is more pro than the other where otherness is contrast

In any healthy relationship ( lovers, friends, co-workers, etc..), there is no pro if the service-to-all-as-self results in total self sacrifice. In these situations, the relationship fails because it is missing the one who sacrificed themselves. Service-to-all-as-self requires at least a small portion of service-to-self. Thus, service-to-self moderates service-to-all-as-self in order to maintain a healthy relationship and the axiom is true: Everything in moderation.

Don't you value relationships?

 

[Fool]

In any healthy relationship ( lovers, friends, co-workers, etc..), there is no pro if the service-to-all-as-self results in total self sacrifice. In these situations, the relationship fails because it is missing the one who sacrificed themselves. Service-to-all-as-self requires at least a small portion of service-to-self. Thus, service-to-self moderates service-to-all-as-self in order to maintain a healthy relationship.

Don't you value relationships?

there is no self-sacrifice in service to all. all includes self. self sacrifice and service to self doesn't include all.

nothing to excess would then mean that pro is neither self-sacrifice of one extreme to self-indulgence and service to the other extreme. so the pro is on service to all

 

[dybmh]

there is no self-sacrifice in service to all. all includes self

We were talking about service-to-all-as-self, not just service-to-all. Service-to-all-as-self means "all" replaces "self".

 

[Fool]

We were talking about service-to-all-as-self, not just service-to-all. Service-to-all-as-self means "all" replaces "self".

all includes self. there is no "we" in "your" mis-understanding


everything would then be all in moderation, or service to all in moderation.


this is the ideal given in john 15:13

 

[dybmh]

all includes self. there is no "we" in "your" mis-understanding


everything would then be all in moderation, or service to all in moderation.


this is the ideal given in john 15:13

So what you meant was "service to all including self"?

 

[dybmh]

there is no self-sacrifice in service to all.

this is the ideal given in john 15:13

Here's the bible passage:

John 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.

How is this the ideal if there is no self-sacrifice in service to all as self?

 

[Fool]

So what you meant was "service to all including self"?

all doesn't exclude anything; so yes. you even intuited it in your statement, "Everything in moderation". I reiterated it as: "nothing to excess"; which comes from the oracle of delphi.

 

[Fool]

Here's the bible passage:

John 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.

How is this the ideal if there is no self-sacrifice in service to all as self?

excess leads to suffering. neither to the left, nor the right, but straight and narrow is the way

 

[Twilight Hue]

which type of service is optimal and why, service to all as self, or service to self only?

I don't own self. The universe does.