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Separation of God and Heaven

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. Fool

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    Can heaven ever exist on Earth; if Earth is separated from God, or God is not omnipresent?

    Can God ever be present if Earth is not part of Heaven, or Heaven isnt present?

    Can heaven and/or Earth exist; if God isn't present?

    Who created The duality of God separated from Heaven and/or Earth? God? Or man?
     
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    Heaven is not a physical place. Earth IS a physical place. They do not exist in the same space.
     
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    Revelation 21:3

    Then what was gods living in Eden? Or Babel for that matter?

    So heaven isn't present; even when the Elohim are?

    So Jesus wasn't a god; although he claimed to be one?
     
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    God can VISIT Eden or Babel or anywhere else, but he does not LIVE there. His home is Heaven.
     
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    so who defines where god can and cannot be? you? or isaiah 66:1 ? or jeremiah 23:24 ? or???
     
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    Only God defines himself. I repeat, God can BE anywhere. But God has a home where he LIVES, and that home is Heaven.
     
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    So the Bible says God doesn't dwell here? Or maybe some other religious book claims God doesn't dwell here?
     
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    Whatever you say
     
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    i didn't say that. you said that. i'm asking. a question is not a statement. could you please provide me with a bible verse that states god does not dwell on earth, or the earth isn't part, or in, heaven?
     
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    John 3:13 No man has ascended up to heaven. If heaven was on earth then everyone has been in heaven. Only God has been in heaven so it cannot be on earth.
     
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    the term son of man was used by the Jewish people to represent humanity. The Bible refers to Ezekiel as the son of man and Jesus too


    SON OF MAN - JewishEncyclopedia.com


    The Bible verse says you cannot go up to heaven if you did not come down. Obviously spirit of God comes from god
     
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    Well, again, whatever you say.
     
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    Lol, I'm not making this up.


    Ezekiel 33:2
     
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    Your original question was "can God be present if earth isn't part of heaven". I have shown that earth isn't part of heaven bit God can visit earth. Ezekiel talks about setting a watchman and has nothing to do with the subject. Try again.
     
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    jesus claimed that the father was present in him, you're claiming the father can't be present in the earth. if something visits something, how is not present?


    john 10:30
     
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    You did not read my posts correctly. I said God can VISIT the earth but does not LIVE there.
     
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