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Secretary of State Pompeo: "There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump Administration"

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
Remember that for many conservatives, abortion is the only issue that matters. Most of them would rather have a "pro-life" dictator than a pro-choice elected president.

Only someone who’s never lived under dictatorship could truly feel that way. Perhaps, after all, life shall have to teach them this through personal experience. :(
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Things could definitely still get interesting, especially since Rudy Giuliani stated that "shocking" affidavits will be published today.

I'll believe these affidavits when I see them survive examination in court - if they ever materialise.

That Giuliani guy is all mouth and no trousers - as Borat has recently demonstrated. :D
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Oh dear...

“...to a second Trump administration.” ?
You truly don’t see what’s dictator-like about saying that, when the country just voted that precise administration out...?

You may somehow still not feel that you are wrong about Trump but I, my friend, am slowly realising that I have been quite wrong about you.

I really do believe you’ve now allowed you fear to entirely blind you because: A despot, is a despot, is a despot - Sometimes the despot is an uneducated, ex bus-driver; other times, it’s a big cry-baby-millionaire.
Vs a socialist, socialist, marxist who is sold out to China?

Or am I suppose to acquiesce and conform to your view under the fear that "I have been quite wrong about you"?

I am not talking about the President but rather the future direction of this country. Trump won't ruin this country in the next four year as I believe Biden will especially if Kamala takes his place for any health reasons!

If I were you, I would look at the macro issues and not the macro.

BUT

I can live with your position and not form a 'different opinion' about you just because you have a different view. :)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Democracy : a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

I believe that encompasses the US system

As an aside
In the UK, the PM is not elected by the "people", but by the elected representatives of those people.
Technically we are a democratically elected republic. That can have some apparently contradictory results. The President may not be the choice of the people due to our Electoral College. Eash state chooses its electors based upon the election, but if one candidate barely wins in the states that he takes and the other wins his states by a more substantial margin we can have an outcome like we did four years ago. Hillary won the popular vote by a sizeable margin, but Trump did win the electoral vote. He did not play the game as well this time around. Trump lost both the electoral and the popular vote. So what is left? Only cheating after the fact or perhaps worse.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I'll believe these affidavits when I see them survive examination in court - if they ever materialise.

That Giuliani guy is all mouth and no trousers - as Borat has recently demonstrated. :D
Can't a man tuck his shirt in while laying down (even though it does look like he was doing something else) ?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Vs a socialist, socialist, marxist who is sold out to China?

Or am I suppose to acquiesce and conform to your view under the fear that "I have been quite wrong about you"?

I am not talking about the President but rather the future direction of this country. Trump won't ruin this country in the next four year as I believe Biden will especially if Kamala takes his place for any health reasons!

If I were you, I would look at the macro issues and not the macro.

BUT

I can live with your position and not form a 'different opinion' about you just because you have a different view. :)
So then by your standards Trump is a fascist? Let's not misuse terminology. It does not promote a rational conversation.
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
I am not talking about the President/...


Yes KenS, I know. That is sort of my point.
You are too busy worrying about what hasn’t happened (and thinking that you know what will), to see what is going on right before you.

It’s cool though. I just think it’s sad that Maduro and Chavez get to continue to control and ruin so many ppl’s lives through the grip they still have on your minds.

Humbly
Hermit
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Let's face it, there is nothing we can do to convince Trump supporters this was a legal election and their dear leader lost. Time to move on and stop giving them air time.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Yes KenS, I know. That is sort of my point.
You are too busy worrying about what hasn’t happened (and thinking that you know what will), to see what is going on right before you.

It’s cool though. I just think it’s sad that Maduro and Chavez get to continue to control and ruin so many ppl’s lives through the grip they still have on your minds.

Humbly
Hermit
It is because of the experience of Maduro and Chavez that I have gained the wisdom of what I see. IMO

There is a reason why the Cubans and Venezuelans (and perhaps immigrated Russians) moved to Trump... and it isn't because he just pulled their strings... they know what potential is in what they see from Biden/Kamala
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
you truly are a master spinster. ;)

Oh my no! That is your sin. You are in effect calling Trump a fascist. You are not being consistent in your standards. That was the point of that post. If you can reason consistently you will become a better debater.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Oh my no! That is your sin. You are in effect calling Trump a fascist. You are not being consistent in your standards. That was the point of that post. If you can reason consistently you will become a better debater.
Wow... what an imagination! You got a "winner" sticker for that one.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Wow... what an imagination! You got a "winner" sticker for that one.
Not an imagination. You falsely call people "socialists". By the same standards Trump is a "fascist". Try to use terminology properly.

Why is this so hard for you to understand? If you learn how to debate using consistent standards, that means for both sides. you will become a better debater. I do not like it when people call Trump a fascist. I do not like it when Republicans call Democrats socialists. Both are wrong. Both are committing the same error.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Not an imagination. You falsely call people "socialists". By the same standards Trump is a "fascist". Try to use terminology properly.

Why is this so hard for you to understand? If you learn how to debate using consistent standards, that means for both sides. you will become a better debater. I do not like it when people call Trump a fascist. I do not like it when Republicans call Democrats socialists. Both are wrong. Both are committing the same error.
OK... I can deal with that!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I just realized. This is a new type of reality show right?

One that keeps people guessing but are never sure, is this reality or is this an episode written by the creators of Game of Thrones?

Brilliant!
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Let's face it, there is nothing we can do to convince Trump supporters this was a legal election and their dear leader lost. Time to move on and stop giving them air time.
I agree. Time to prepare for a Biden and Harris regime and brace for what damage they are going to do to this country.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I agree. Time to prepare for a Biden and Harris regime and brace for what damage they are going to do to this country.
Sure, they (like all politicians) need to be held accountable for their political actions.
 
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