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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Jul 8, 2022.

  1. Fool

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    if there is a heaven, why aren't more people in a hurry to get there?


    shouldn't there be like a search for god, or heaven? vs you're dying to get there?


    where is the human lemmings runoff?
     
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    Maybe because there is no way to hurry it. Instead of that it would be wiser to do this:

    "Therefore don't be anxious, saying, 'What will we eat?', 'What will we drink?' or, 'With what will we be clothed?' For the Gentiles seek after all these things, for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first God's Kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things will be given to you as well.
    Matthew 6:31-33

    "The Kingdom of God doesn't come with observation; neither will they say, 'Look, here!' or, 'Look, there!' for behold, the Kingdom of God is within you."
    Luke 17:20-21

    ..."Most assuredly, I tell you, unless one is born anew, he can't see the Kingdom of God." Nicodemus said to him, "How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb, and be born?" Jesus answered, "Most assuredly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God! That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Don't marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born anew.'
    John 3:3-7

    It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.
    John 6:63
     
  3. Fool

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    so if the kingdom of god is within you, why are some people dualistic? why do they see god and/or heaven as else where? vs the kingdom of god is omnipresent?
     
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    Lack of faith?
     
  5. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    One would think...

     
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    I don't think kingdom of God is the same as God or heaven.
     
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    so god exists else where?


    why have a kingdom if you're not present?
     
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    Maybe they don't want to queue. I mean, there is literally one saint at the gates processing people so there is no way he has been keeping up with the worldwide death rate, even if not everyone is going to heaven.

    Until we hear about him getting more staff or implementing some kind of computer system, we're better off waiting here. :cool:
     
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    I just meant that they are not the same thing in my opinion. But, as the Bible tells, Jesus and his disciples are the temple of God, God dwells in them.

    Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I tell you, I speak not from myself; but the Father who lives in me does his works....
    John 14:10-14
    But if the Spirit of him who raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in you...
    Romans 8:11
    Don't you know that you are a temple of God, and that God's Spirit lives in you?
    1 Corinthians 3:16

    This does not mean He lives in all people.
     
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    YoursTrue Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)

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    On a secondary note, I was thinking if evolution is true, why are people usually afraid of dying? And why on the converse, worry or think about a "right to life", if evolution is true, because if we evolved, death is a sure prospect, no wonder about it.
     
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    YoursTrue Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)

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    Kings do not have to reside in the capital. Or every part of the land they are ruler over.
     
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    Well surely this life has meaning to it. And should be lived to the very end
     
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    I guess most don't actually believe in an afterlife :D. Find heaven on earth in this life, in the present :)
     
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    Because life is short anyway. What's the hurry?

    However some people have gone to that extreme. Remember the Jim Jones cult?
     
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    Welcome to rf. An end is just another end's beginning.

    Eternal life always has meaning and doesn't have a beginning/end
     
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    life isn't short to those who are awakened to eternal life. It's just differences in vehicles.
     
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    Isaiah 66 disagrees with you.
     
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    you are no Fool
     
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    Life in our present form and place is indeed short.
     
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    life is eternal, the form it takes is short. you are associating life to a form. that is far from the truth.
     
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