thehighrollerm85
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Does Scientology view psychology as a threat? Do all religions view science as a threat? I can’t say they all do, but to a large extent , religion views science as a rival.
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Scientology leader David Miscavige saw psychology as a threat.
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Does Scientology view psychology as a threat? Do all religions view science as a threat? I can’t say they all do, but to a large extent , religion views science as a rival.
No. In fact you mostly have religious people to thank for modern science.
It's because Dianetics is a pseudo-science that the con artist, Hubbard, wanted to replace mainstream psychology and psychiatry. Please don't lump in Scientology with religion in general. It's a corrupt cult and a scam.
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Elrond Hubbard had a real bug up his **** about psychiatry. If you've ever tried to read Dianetics (Hint: Don't. Seriously) he goes on and on about it. David Miscarriage is just following Elrond's script.
L. Ron Hubbard. "Elrond" is from Lord of the Rings.
Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
I know what I said.
I’m not sure to what extent religion views science as a threat, but it appears to me that for many religions science is a threat, even if it is not perceived that way by its adherents.
Well, everyone on here is using a computer or a phone
Those who wish to grift people look for the vulnerable. People with mental illness is one such group several organizations target. The elderly is another, especially where elderly and infirm overlap. The grieving are another. In my opinion lots of religions and non-religious organizations which focus on making money easily and unethically will not only target them, but try to isolate them from people who might catch wise, like their psychologists and concerned friends and family. I don't believe it has anything actually to do with science or even religion. It's all about money.
As a general rule of thumb, the more fundamentalist the religion, the fewer members of it you will find employed in the sciences. Although Scientology is more scam than religion, it is closer to a fundamentalist religion in most respects than otherwise.
epronovost
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Well, everyone on here is using a computer or a phone
There is a difference between techonology and science; one is a group of intellectual disciplines and the other a product of it. Even then, many religious groups dislike technology and have tried to push back advances they perceived threatening to their values and way of life. Medecine was often seen as rejecting deities as the source of all healing and master of death; astronomy and physics are sometime perceived as threatening to cosmology; psychology, sociology, economy and anthropology to dogma. Right now, many religious groups have concerns over in vitro fertilisation, cloning, abortion, contraceptives, eugenics and I even saw a little bit of concerns over the ethic of artificial intelligence. Religion in general, today, is definitely a conservative force for better or worse.
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exchemist
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Damn, I was just about to use that joke.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Quite. It should be Enron Hubbard: superficially plausible, but a sham and rotten to the core.
Shadow Wolf
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Yes, scientology does view psychology asa problem. Also, scientology has nothing to do with science. And it's mostly contemporary Christianity and Islam that have followers who turned rabidly anti-science. Scientology is really just an abusive scam and cult--practically a criminal organization--who takes uses freedom of religion to get away with their criminal behaviors.
Shadow Wolf
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I think Elron is what Tom Cruise called Stan in the South Park episode Trappedin the Cloest. Been a while so I could be wrong.
thehighrollerm85
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The more I think about it, it seems like DM was attempting to topple psychology and completly replace it with dianetics via world revolution. Scientology has aims to pass off Hubbards work as a science replacement.
A war over mental health professionalism: Scientology versus psychiatry
TagliatelliMonster
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That could also be rephrased as "you mostly have people to thank for modern science".
In a lot of cases, progress in science wasn't made "thanks to" religion but rather "in spite of it".
And that still continues to this day.
TagliatelliMonster
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Well, everyone on here is using a computer or a phone
While being in full blown denial of the science that made them possible, as it's the same science (at least in part) that underpins things like for example radio-metric testing and they insist on the world being only 6000 years old.
No, religious people expected to find scientific laws because they believed in a law giver. They expected to find design because they believed in a designer.
This atheist nonsense is just that. Believe it or not, religious people are smarter than people like you often give them credit for.
You do realise this is not every religious person's belief right?