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Scientific Evidence That Islam is the true religion

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by Islam, Aug 27, 2006.

  1. Islam

    Islam Member

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    The Quran, which was revealed fourteen centuries ago, mentioned facts only recently discovered or proven by scientists. This proves without doubt that the Quran must be the literal word of God, revealed by Him to the Prophet Muhammad , and that the Quran was not authored by Muhammad or by any other human being. This also proves that Muhammad is truly a prophet sent by God. It is beyond reason that anyone fourteen hundred years ago would have known these facts discovered or proven only recently with advanced equipment and sophisticated scientific methods. Some examples follow.

    A) The Quran on Human Embryonic Development:
    In the Holy Quran, God speaks about the stages of man’s embryonic development:

    " We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)... " (Quran, 23:12-14)

    Literally, the Arabic word alaqah has three meanings: (1) leech, (2) suspended thing, and (3) blood clot.

    In comparing a leech to an embryo in the alaqah stage, we find similarity bet
    ween the two2 as we can see in figure 1. Also, the embryo at this stage obtains nourishment from the blood of the mother, similar to the leech, which feeds on the blood of others.

    The second meaning of the word alaqah is “suspended thing.” This is what we can see in figures 2 and 3, the suspension of the embryo, during the alaqah stage, in the womb of the mother.

    Figure 3: In this photomicrograph, we can see the suspension of an embryo (marked during the alaqah stage (about 15 days old) in the womb of the mother. The actual size of the embryo is about 0.6 mm. (The Developing Human, Moore, 3rd ed., p. 66, from Histology, Leeson and Leeson.)

    The third meaning of the word alaqah is “blood clot.” We find that the external appearance of the embryo and its sacs during the alaqah stage is similar to that of a blood clot. This is due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo during this stage4 (see figure 4). Also during this stage, the blood in the embryo does not circulate until the end of the third week.5 Thus, the embryo at this stage is like a clot of blood.


    So the three meanings of the word alaqah correspond accurately to the descriptions of the embryo at the alaqah stage.

    The next stage mentioned in the verse is the mudghah stage. The Arabic word mudghah means “chewed substance.” If one were to take a piece of gum and chew it in his or her mouth and then compare it with an embryo at the mudghah stage, we would conclude that the embryo at the mudghah stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance. This is because of the somites at the back of the embryo that “somewhat resemble teethmarks in a chewed substance.”6 (see figures 5 and 6).

    When comparing the appearance of an embryo at the mudghah stage with a piece of gum that has been chewed, we find similarity between the two.
    A) Drawing of an embryo at the mudghah stage. We can see here the somites at the back of the embryo that look like teeth marks. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 79.)
    Photograph of a piece of gum that has been chewed.

    How could Muhammad have possibly known all this 1400 years ago, when scientists have only recently discovered this using advanced equipment and powerful microscopes which did not exist at that time? Hamm and Leeuwenhoek were the first scientists to observe human sperm cells (spermatozoa) using an improved microscope in 1677 (more than 1000 years after Muhammad ). They mistakenly thought that the sperm cell contained a miniature preformed human being that grew when it was deposited in the female genital tract.7

    Professor Emeritus Keith L. Moore8 is one of the world’s most prominent scientists in the fields of anatomy and embryology and is the author of the book entitled The Developing Human, which has been translated into eight languages. This book is a scientific reference work and was chosen by a special committee in the United States as the best book authored by one person. Dr. Keith Moore is Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Cell Biology at the University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada. There, he was Associate Dean of Basic Sciences at the Faculty of Medicine and for 8 years was the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy. In 1984, he received the most distinguished award presented in the field of anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B. Grant Award from the Canadian Association of Anatomists. He has directed many international associations, such as the Canadian and American Association of Anatomists and the Council of the Union of Biological Sciences.

    In 1981, during the Seventh Medical Conference in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, Professor Moore said: “It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Quran about human development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God.”9 (To view the RealPlayer video of this comment click here ).

    Consequently, Professor Moore was asked the following question: “Does this mean that you believe that the Quran is the word of God?” He replied: “I find no difficulty in accepting this.”10

    During one conference, Professor Moore stated: “....Because the staging of human embryos is complex, owing to the continuous process of change during development, it is proposed that a new system of classification could be developed using the terms mentioned in the Quran and Sunnah (what Muhammad said, did, or approved of). The proposed system is simple, comprehensive, and conforms with present embryological knowledge. The intensive studies of the Quran and hadeeth (reliably transmitted reports by the Prophet Muhammad’s companions of what he said, did, or approved of) in the last four years have revealed a system for classifying human embryos that is amazing since it was recorded in the seventh century A.D. Although Aristotle, the founder of the science of embryology, realized that chick embryos developed in stages from his studies of hen’s eggs in the fourth century B.C., he did not give any details about these stages. As far as it is known from the history of embryology, little was known about the staging and classification of human embryos until the twentieth century. For this reason, the descriptions of the human embryo in the Quran cannot be based on scientific knowledge in the seventh century. The only reasonable conclusion is: these descriptions were revealed to Muhammad from God. He could not have known such details because he was an illiterate man with absolutely no scientific training.”
    _______ Comment: Btw there are images of the figures but i cant post links since im new
     
  2. Islam

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    D) The Quran on the Cerebrum:
    God has said in the Quran about one of the evil unbelievers who forbade the Prophet Muhammad from praying at the Kaaba:

    No! If he does not stop, We will take him by the naseyah (front of the head), a lying, sinful naseyah (front of the head)! (Quran, 96:15-16)

    Why did the Quran describe the front of the head as being lying and sinful? Why didn’t the Quran say that the person was lying and sinful? What is the relationship between the front of the head and lying and sinfulness?

    If we look into the skull at the front of the head, we will find the prefrontal area of the cerebrum (see figure 12). What does physiology tell us about the function of this area? A book entitled Essentials of Anatomy & Physiology says about this area, “The motivation and the foresight to plan and initiate movements occur in the anterior portion of the frontal lobes, the prefrontal area. This is a region of association cortex...”1 Also the book says, “In relation to its involvement in motivation, the prefrontal area is also thought to be the functional center for aggression....”2

    Figure 12: Functional regions of the left hemisphere of the cerebral cortex. The prefrontal area is located at the front of the cerebral cortex. (Essentials of Anatomy & Physiology, Seeley and others, p. 210.) (Click on the image to enlarge it.)

    So, this area of the cerebrum is responsible for planning, motivating, and initiating good and sinful behavior and is responsible for the telling of lies and the speaking of truth. Thus, it is proper to describe the front of the head as lying and sinful when someone lies or commits a sin, as the Quran has said, “...A lying, sinful naseyah (front of the head)!”

    Scientists have only discovered these functions of the prefrontal area in the last sixty years, according to Professor Keith L. Moore.
     
  3. JerryL

    JerryL Well-Known Member

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    ~Yawn~

    Please post your own thoughts.
     
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  4. Mr. Hair

    Mr. Hair Renegade Cavalcade

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    Only if one interprets those verses in a particular way, much like how a few Christians claim that the creation story in Genesis is really a coded message supporting evolution. Last time I checked, I wasn't made out of clay. ;)
     
  5. nuyahmed

    nuyahmed New Member

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    what do you mean?
     
  6. nutshell

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    The same can said for just about any religious text.
     
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    It's even more fun when bible codes are used - or any other method (like finding invisible inks, etc) that articifially distorts the text. By these methods we can exploit ancient texts even more than simply by reading modern science into them. :rolleyes:

    Apologists have been doing the same thing with Christian and Mormon texts with archeology and anthopology. There's always someone looking for Noah's ark to support Christian texts or a history of South America that supports Mormon history. :beach:
     
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  8. nutshell

    nutshell Well-Known Member

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    Yep. My thoughts exactly.
     
  9. maro

    maro muslimah

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    actually the miracuolous signs of quran which agrees with the modernly discovered facts, are not only restricted to embryology

    but in many fields of science like cosmology , geology,and others, and I have detailed articles and sites about that topic

    the agreement between some verses of the quran and modern scienceis a very clear fact which made many scientists convert to Islam, and it is not a matter of debate, actually

    Every prophet sent by Allah to people had miracles seen by his people to prove his prophecy,
    and yet not all people believed in prophets
    but still some chose to disbelieve, and deny even what they have seen with their own eyes

    but unlike all other prophets , Mohammed's message is not restricted to his people,
    but it's universal in place and time (as he is the last prophet)

    that's why Allah made muhammed's miracle universal ( in place and time ) just like his messege
    to prove his prophecy till the day of judgment
    and that's why the quran is the miracle
    but still some people will deny that too
    just like they did to all other prophets
     
  10. Shadow Wolf

    Shadow Wolf Crazy Diamond

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    The Druids of ancient times knew that a young child can learn damned near anything for the first couple years of thier life, and after that, the 'window of learning' forever closes, and learning becomes harder as the child gets old. Wall Street journal had an article a couple years ago mentioning that scientist have recently discovered that for themselves.
     
  11. Mike182

    Mike182 Flaming Queer

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    no it doesn't.

    at best, it proves an entity with knowledge and ability beyond our own, it does not prove omnipotence or omnibenevolence, two things i understand as being key characteristics of God according to Islam.
     
  12. Ryan2065

    Ryan2065 Well-Known Member

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    Is the "created man from an extract of clay" explained or do we just throw it away to make this statement correct?
     
  13. Bishka

    Bishka Veteran Member

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    The Qur'an no more proves that Islam is the true religion then does the Bible or any other religious texts.
     
  14. Tiberius

    Tiberius Well-Known Member

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    if you wish us to believe your claims, please show that it is impossible for the people to have learnt this in any other way.
     
  15. kai

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    We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)... then we relate this to modern science and we get----------------- proof?
    • Mix the heart of the clay that is over the abyss,
      The good and princely fashioners will thicken the clay,
      You, [Nammu] do you bring the limbs into existence;
      Ninmah [earth-mother or birth goddess] will work above you,
      The goddesses [of birth] . . . will stand by you at your fashioning;
      O my mother, decree its [the newborn's] fate,
      Ninmah will bind upon it the image (?) of the gods,
      It is man . . . . (Kramer, History Begins 109)
    Jacobsen translates these apparently difficult to decipher lines somewhat differently, seeing a "birth chair" where Kramer sees the "image" of the gods. Jacobsen's translation also stresses that the fashioning of the newborn imitates in some way the growth of a fetus in the womb. Jacobsen translates the moment of birth like this (words and letters in brackets represent gaps in the original text):
    • [Without] the sperm
      of a ma[le]
      she gave [birth]
      to offspri[ng.,]
      to the [em]bryo
      of mankind. (Harps 157)
    • sumerian creation of man myth-------------------------proof?
    • ancient people were not stupid they had seen embryos aborted,miscaried etc
    source:http://faculty.gvsu.edu/websterm/SumerianMyth.htm
     
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  16. lilithu

    lilithu The Devil's Advocate

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    Let me guess, Harun Yahya, right?

    You guys should mix it up a little instead of posting the exact same thing every time, lifted directly from the book. Then at least you wouldn't be as easy to spot.
     
  17. Ezzedean

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    I see what you're saying and agree with you a bit, but you can't deny that in that verse God is trying to explain how we are created. God is telling us the steps in this verse, so can you tell me how you would interpret this verse?

    " We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)... " (Quran, 23:12-14)

    The english translations use those words (leech, suspended thing, blood clot and chewed substance) so how else would you interpret that verse when it is clear as day that they match scientific pictures of the process which takes place in the womens body?

    Does the interpretation given in the previous post not seem to be the most logical? You have to remember God couldn't sit and give all the scientific terms and difficult explanations, due to the fact that the word is for everyone and not just the intelligent people. Can you atleast agree that it does make sense for it to be explaining the stages of birth? And that it could actually be a pretty accurate description of the process (how it looks)? There are many books written on the scientific aspect of the Quran, written by non-muslim scientists who agree that there are many descriptions within the text of the Quran were in no way possible for anyone to know about during the time it was written. It seems clear to me... but I'm a muslim, but from what I've read in legit books (not just internet websites) experienced and respected scientists agree.

    Peace and Blessings.
     
  18. kai

    kai ragamuffin

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    Ezzadean as i posted already the ancient sumerians had a similar creation of man myth, throughout human history women would have had miscarriages or some problem with carrying a child to full term, fetuses at different stages of developmentwould have been evident to physicians and midwives from time immemorial
     
  19. lilithu

    lilithu The Devil's Advocate

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    Yup. It constantly amazes me when people argue "how could they have known? that proves there was...." Divine revelation, or extraterrestrials, or fill in the blank. ancient peoples did not have electron microscopes and the internet, but they were no more stupid than we are now. They observed their world and made educated guesses and figured things out, which is how we got to where we are.
     
  20. drekmed

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    Yep, for people to claim otherwise is to insult their own ancestor's intelligence and ability to perceive the world around them. If they weren't intelligent or perceptive enough to know what a miscarriage meant and looked like, since I'm sure it was a very common occurence, then why are the writings of someone from that period so revered?
     
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