ecco
Veteran Member
Yet your version of God is different from the versions of God that others have ascertained through "truth search by truth accommodation".
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Science is a false God
- Thread starter Remté
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Exactly.
Any model that is self-contradictory can be eliminated.
Any model that fails to make specific, testable predictions can be eliminated.
Any model whose predictions have been shown to be wrong must be either eliminated or modified into a new model.
Shantanu
Well-Known Member
Did they also go to University to study science and practice law extensively?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I am sure that many of them have their own qualifications.
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
Can you understand that "helpless" and "innocent" are not the same thing?
ecco
Veteran Member
How silly. If "science" did know, there would be no reason to investigate.
It is only when science says "I do not know", that true investigation can begin.
That's what separates science from religion. Religion and religious people do think they know everything.
Shantanu
Well-Known Member
Truth is only known when one has completely exhausted all that science has to teach and that process is followed by the use of psychology to learn about humanity of how humans behave.
ecco
Veteran Member
To which someone replied:
I know his answer! He is going to demand that you prove that they would not be evil when they grew up. Don't worry, I got him rather angry when he was rude to me and appears to have put me on ignore. I asked questions about slavery that he had no answer for. He won't see this post.
Glad to be of assistance.
We prefer to leave the label “omnsicient and infallible” to beings who cannot even write.
Ciao
- viole
exchemist
Veteran Member
You are not listening. Science is not omniscient and I have not said it is. Who is suffering delusions that it is?
On the contrary, I said this: "Nobody, however, is saying we know the model is definitively right or complete. That would be a quite different claim. A scientifically literate person would not make such a claim, since no theory in science can be proved true."
Do you need me to explain this? It means that in science all "truth" is only provisional and subject to being overturned or amended by later discoveries about nature.
That is not omniscience. It is intellectual humility, born of the experience of history.
ratiocinator
Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Yes, but it makes no difference to your double standards. Children tend to be helpless in the face of an army whether you class them as innocent or not.
On the one hand, you argued for objective morality on the basis of near universal reaction to killing helpless children as being "morally abominable". On the other, we have you defending the very same act when it's ordered by your god in your favourite book of stories.
Shantanu
Well-Known Member
Truth has to be totally and utterly pursued at all costs in ones quest to discover whether God exists in reality.
Timothy Spurlin
Active Member
If you're not going to answer my question directly how can this discussion continue?
I did answer it.
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
And since you are powerless to show that Jehovah God does not nor cannot exist . . .
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
Where? Link?
Timothy Spurlin
Active Member
Children are innocent until they are adults.
Timothy Spurlin
Active Member
They were murders like your god.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
How can infants and fetuses be evil?
Timothy Spurlin
Active Member
The fact that there are dozens upon dozens of fulfilled Bible prophecies constitutes probative evidence of the existence of its author, Jehovah God.
This fact is, by far, the most compelling logical reason why millions upon millions of neurotypical individuals today the world over only accept the Bible as the Inspired Word of Jehovah God. Simply no other book – religious or not – comes with such illustrious prominence. Because it's impossible for any person to foresee with complete precision what's sure to occur from one hour to the next, there's no two ways about it: Bible prophecies are not of natural origin. I kindly invite you to examine for yourself various examples of these specific and accurately fulfilled prophecies.
Name them.