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Featured Science In The Bible

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by tosca1, May 15, 2019.

  1. tosca1

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    Here is an explanation:


    What Are “Kinds” in Genesis?
     
  2. shunyadragon

    shunyadragon Well-Known Member
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    This has nothing to do with evolution. It has to with your post concerning the cosmology of the universe:



    No, science cannot confirm our physical existence had a beginning or not. Science has not confirmed whether our universe began as a singularity or it is cyclic, or science has reasonable evidence that the universe is part of a greater physical existence possibly a multiverse,
     
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    I think we are afraid of snakes because they are one species that could climb up the trees and eat us.
     
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  4. tosca1

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    Lol. There are no failures.
    And I'm not cherry-picking.

    I say there are no failures because - the Bible is also mixed with poetry, parables, analogies, and it uses so many different kinds of figures of speech.

    Unless science confirms something - we won't know if the verse is supposed to be taken literally or simply a poetic way of talking, or if just figures of speech.
     
  5. Dan From Smithville

    Dan From Smithville Well-Known Member
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    You got that all from what he posted? No wonder you are seeing science in Genesis that is not there.

    Did you forget to mention some of your many comments about others responding to your posts? You know the ones that were not answers to their questions, but implied there was something wrong with them. You did forget. How convenient.
     
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    Dan From Smithville Well-Known Member
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    There may be something to that, but I am not sure how you would test for it. Comparison of response by other primates in the wild? They seem to react as you suggest here.
     
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    That is the beauty of it. You can make it mean whatever you want it to mean.
     
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  8. tosca1

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    Here, from the faq of NASA:

    WMAP Site FAQs


    You may be referring to this:


    The Big Bang Wasn't The Beginning, After All



    The beginning may not have began with the big bang.....but that's not the same as saying there's no beginning.


    Until science changes its position and says there is no beginning for the universe - we'll just have to stick to that.
     
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  9. John53

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    It says 2 things that can breed together are a "kind". So an Irish Wolfhound and a Chihuahua are different "kinds" because they can't breed together?
     
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    Gee. I thought quite a bit. You said


    "Let me be clear about this: the Bible is not a science book.
    However, with that being said - I couldn't help but see the science in it.
    From an evolutionist's perspective - Genesis is loaded!

    Like this one:

    Genesis 1
    20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life,

    The implication being that those who study evolution should be particularly interested in the Bible's claim that god made the
    waters bring forth the moving creature that hath life. But they're not Aside from being a possible curiosity, your little Bible piece is of no more interest to evolutionists than it is to astrophysicists, climatologists, or pharmacists.

    Don't conflate the two arenas of science.

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  11. Dan From Smithville

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    There is no evidence that formalized science was being conducted during the time of the Bible. That people could observe things and include those observations into a story is not evidence that the story is science or science-based. The inclusion of facts is not consistent with claims and often contradicts what has been determined using science.

    Including some facts mixed into the text is not evidence of science or that later science is actually in line with the Bible.

    While it may indicate something about person making the claim about specific instances of factual observations in Genesis, I do not see what the point of doing it is other than to lend some sort of support for the belief. This is nothing more than cherry picking and a wild imagination brought to bear to bias specific conclusions.
     
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    I know - I'm saying that.
     
  13. tosca1

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    Yes, they're both dogs. Can they breed together? That's the question.
    Maybe, "kind" includes their sizes, too - if breeding is possible.
     
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    A bite like asking a deeply religious person about
    Your question is identical to asking a religious person about the similarities between their story and others. In a sense all denial statements are a reworded versions of invoking the term parallelism. It's actually behavioral response they can't help it.
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    Then the link you sent is wrong. So back to my original question... what is a "kind"?
     
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  16. tosca1

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    Gimme a break! You don't speak for all evolutionists!

    There are evolutionists who wonder if science and religion are compatible. Many scientists say they are.

    You don't censor what views can be brought forth in a forum (as long as they're within the forum rules).
    You're not the only member, nor the only viewer here! Lol.
     
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    I've given you the answer. Add my last post to it.

    It goes without saying when God said , "according to their kinds," that a dog as small as a chihuahua couldn't possibly breed with a Great Dane!

    Even the dogs would know that!
     
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    Science and the Bible are much much closer than most people realize. It’s people’s beliefs that are far far apart.
     
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  19. shunyadragon

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    No, 'we cannot stick to that.' I did not say it is known that there was 'no beginning', and please do not 'misquote me,' nor does science say that.

    Isaid, "No, science cannot confirm our physical existence had a beginning or not. Science has not confirmed whether our universe began as a singularity or it is cyclic, or science has reasonable evidence that the universe is part of a greater physical existence possibly a multiverse,"
     
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    You gave a link that contained a simplistic answer that appears to be wrong. I don't understand your explanation. Are you saying God got it wrong?
     
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    Maybe the Babylonians or the Ugarit got it wrong.
     
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