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Featured Science cannot solve the final mystery

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by atanu, Jun 17, 2019.

  1. cladking

    cladking Active Member

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    It's the logic that ties the words together and their ability to "think" in three dimensions that make animals capable and "intelligent". They don't know much because their languages are too simple to accumulate knowledge across the generations but they still employ the "magic" of mathematics in their thinking and behavior. This is what keeps individuals alive or culls them from the pack because this "magic" assures they all engage in different behavior caused by the variability in their genes.
     
  2. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    Google:

    pascal
    Pressure—the effect of a force applied to a surface—is a derived unit, obtained from combining base units. The unit of pressure in the SI system is the pascal (Pa), defined as a force of one Newton per square meter. The conversion between atm, Pa, and torr is as follows: 1 atm = 101325 Pa = 760 torr.

    and torr?

    The torr (symbol: Torr) is a non-SI unit of pressure defined as 1/760 of an atmosphere.

    Millimeters of mercury is sometimes used, but inches of mercury.has very specific applications (such as in aviation). It is far from "standard".

    Wowee!

    Do tell!

    Give us, say, 10 names from this "chrous"?

    What about the word 'wasser'? 'Aqua'? 'Ap'?

    Which Ancient Language does the modern English word 'water' derive from, pray tell?
     
  3. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    As opposed to your 'wish and believe' assertions...
     
  4. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    Cause and effect
     
  5. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    You're too much...
     
  6. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    ig·no·rant

    adjective
    1. lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.

      • lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about a particular thing.
        "they were ignorant of astronomy"
    su·per·sti·tious

    adjective
    1. having or showing a belief in superstitions.
      "many superstitious beliefs and practices are connected with sneezing"
      synonyms: mythical, irrational, illusory, groundless, unfounded, unprovable;
      traditional
      "superstitious beliefs"
      credulous, prone to superstition;
      naive, gullible
      "Joe is incredibly superstitious"
    Yes.
    Many people are still this way today, and of course we cannot know everything, so we will always be ignorant of things. Fewer are superstitious today since we have explanations for things that many in the ancient world attributed to the supernatural.

    How can you deny this?
    If one wants to approach or arrive at 'truths' about the natural world, generally yes.

    Can you show a 'truth' about the natural world that was derived via religion?
    Look at you, all condescending even as you've yet to provide any actual reason to think you are the ultimate authority on anything! Aren't you precious!
     
  7. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    To include your laughable quips about Darwin and your evidence-free gibberish about Egypt.

    Cool.
     
  8. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    Despite all of your accusations regarding everyone else's ignorance, and your being the only one who knows the truth about everything, and these claims of facts and logic and evidence, you've presented exactly NOTHING but your self-righteous ranting opinions devoid of any basis in facts or logic.

    Put up or shut up.
     
  9. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    Nope, he does not.

    But he BELIEVES it, and he has lots of condescending bombast that PROVES what he believes is beyond the comprehension of mere mortals - regardless of topic.

    We should be awed by his mere presence.
     
  10. Phaedrus

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    Science is not in the business of trying to solve philosophical woo. Religion and spirituality are weak, fallible, human understandings of what may lie beyond our perception of reality, but in no way is there any truth to what remains wishful imaginative musings.
     
  11. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    All your vacuous ranting and all I ever see is a comical lack of self-awareness.

    Surely, so amazing an intellect as your want to be seen as is familiar with the concept of psychological projection and transference?
     
  12. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    It seems that he believes that his every utterance is factual, and stringing together several paragraphs of self-aggrandizing rhetoric is logic.
     
  13. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    No, it is a mere ASSERTION.

    I know this will come as a shock,. but simply because some dude calling itself 'cladking' in the interwebs declares something, it is not by mere decree, a fact.
     
  14. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    It is, after all, the charlatan's way...
     
  15. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    And you merely believe that evidence is unsupported assertions and logic is gibberish.

    You believe what you assert.
     
  16. atanu

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    How do you know that there is no truth in any of religion and spirituality? Have you practised any path?
     
  17. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    Projection.
    What we call 'table salt' consists of crystals of what we call, by convention/definition, sodium and chloride ions.

    You may believe that or not. If you do not believe it, then you are wrong.

    That is a fact.

    It is a fact that table salt is made up of sodium and chloride whether one believes it or not.

    This is how good science operates.


    It does not operate by mere assertion.
    Yet one can form an opinion on the existence of this God based on facts, evidence, and logic.

    The facts, evidence, and logic do not point favorably to the existence of this God, or any god. Even if you really want it to.

    One may choose to believe this God exists despite the dearth of facts, logic, and evidence in its support.

    One may claim that because it cannot be 'proven' that God does NOT exist, that the default position is that God does exist. But that is rather pathetic logic, no?
     
  18. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    cite
    /sīt/

    verb
    verb: cite; 3rd person present: cites; past tense: cited; past participle: cited; gerund or present participle: citing
    1. 1.
      quote (a passage, book, or author) as evidence for or justification of an argument or statement, especially in a scholarly work.
      synonyms: quote, reproduce More
      • mention as an example.
        "medics have been cited as a key example of a modern breed of technical expert"
        synonyms: refer to, make reference to, mention, allude to, adduce, instance, give as an example, point to; More
      • LAW
        refer to a former tried case as a guide to deciding a comparable case or in support of an argument.
    2. 2.
      praise (someone, typically a member of the armed forces) for a courageous act in an official dispatch.
      synonyms: commend, pay tribute to, praise, recognize, give recognition to
      "he has been cited many times for his contributions in this area"
    3. 3.
      summon (someone) to appear in a court of law.


    NOPE.
     
  19. shunyadragon

    shunyadragon Veteran Member
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    Practicing any one path just gives you the subjective relative experience of practicing that path, and only the 'truth' if you believe it so.

    As per the thread topic , , , the there is no solution to the final mystery from the fallible human perspective.
     
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  20. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    WHERE have you done this?

    Surely in none of your meandering rants on here - WHERE have you done this???

    Quote please.
    You're a regular Walter Mitty!

    And your evidence of all this is......????

    Your assertions on discussion forums that this really happened?

    Very true - especially because it looks an awful lot like fantasy or confabulation.

    In around 1996, I brought mt graduate advisor's mail to him. He quickly looked through the stack to see what was of interest. He stopped at a post card, which he looked at for a moment.... grinned... gave it to me.

    The postcard was covered - literally covered, on pretty much every available space - with punctuation-free rants about how my advisor refused to see the TRUTH about dinosaurs. This was comical, since my advisor studied mammals. My eyes glazed over after about 10 lines of nonsense, I handed it back to my advisor. Without even looking, he pitched it into the trash.

    I am betting that this crazy person used the fact that my advisor never replied to his zany ranting as PROOF that he was just refusing to let the TRUTH see the light of day.
     
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