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Science and logic lovers, I need your help

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Estro Felino, Nov 28, 2021.

  1. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    Ok..
    We all know that there are so many kinds of electric pylons and transmission towers.
    The layout of these indispensable pylons is very, very diverse.

    The truth is that they are incredibly different than one another.
    To begin with, European pylons are different than the American ones.

    Well...I need your help, guys.
    I am going to post several pictures of a specific transmission tower.

    I am going to describe it. Structure made of four façades, each of them with 45 degrees inclined diagonal bars.


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    Question
    Is it possible to climb this specific pylon to the top?
    Or at least, 6 or 8 meters?

    I think it is impossible. I tried to climb to the first three diagonal bars...but at the third I was stuck.
    I felt like I was being dragged.

    What do you guys think?
    Please...this is very important.
     
  2. Estro Felino

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    If you need more pictures.

    traliccio-2.jpeg.jpg
     
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    What is the vertical spacing between the attachment points of successive diagonal bars to the vertical ones at the corners?

    I note the pylon has been taped off. Do I presume someone is alleged to have climbed to the top and electrocuted himself?
     
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    I think that the first diagonal bar is 1.50 meter long at least...
    So...does that help?:)
     
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    I am not good at maths...
    If you need the proportion between men and pylon

    Btw the pylon is 13 meters high and becomes thinner and thinner

    traliccio.jpg
     
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    In the last picture you can see they use a lift on a crane so...it is the proof you need a machine to get to the top
     
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    Virtually anything is climbable, given the right tools, but this seems eminently climbable without assistance - given that there isn't a big enough space between items that could be used.
     
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    That picture helps a lot, and I see indeed it has been cordoned off by the police as I suspected.

    I believe it would be quite easy to climb to the top, if you climb at one corner, placing alternate feet at the points where each diagonal bar is attached to the corner vertical column. You would need a head for heights obviously, but the spacing is about 60cm, quite manageable.
     
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    That's not proof at all. All it shows is that it is easier and safer to do it that way.
     
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    We are speaking of 45 degrees inclined diagonal bars. Very few inches wide
     
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    See post 8. You climb at a corner, on the outside of the tower, placing feet at the junction points between the diagonals and the vertical.
     
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    I couldnt climb beyond the 3rd bar because bars inclination become higheŕ and higher.
    From 45 degrees to 35 and so on
     
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    Seems to me that if someone were physically strong, agile, and determined enough, they could climb up into this tower on a vertical corner.
     
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    The problem is not where you put your feet on.
    It is where you put your hands on.
    Where your arms can be sustained.
    We are speaking of sharp bars
     
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    As long as one is in contact with something by one foot and one hand, and can progress, then one can make progress to gain a higher station with either the other foot or other hand - it seems to me. Perhaps it depends upon how tall one is though. The bolts are also an option to use for many.

    I wasn't that good of a climber but if sufficient money was laid on the table, and I was younger, I would no doubt have climbed this. :oops:
     
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    Yes.
    In your opinion, why did they make 45 degrees diagonal bars?
    Why not straight bars? Like a staircase, for example.
    ;)
     
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    Guys, the first 3 bars are very easy...I admit that.
    But after those, it becomes impossible
     
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    I'm not into the engineering of pylons or as to the prevention of trespassers so can't say, but most things like this are climbable it seems to me, knowing the abilities of the best climbers. They need very little to enable them to gain height, and there is plenty here for such, even if it means they have to take up contortionist positions in order to do so.
     
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    Gloves?
     
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    I ask if it is possible without gloves.
     
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