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Scenarios: is it possible to walk both the LHP and the RHP at the same time?

Discussion in 'Left-Hand Path Religions DIR' started by crossfire, Jan 7, 2022.

  1. crossfire

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    For the purpose of this thread:

    RHP = Joining with "The All" (objectively and/or subjectively)
    LHP = Maintaining subjective separation from "The All"

    Is it possible to walk both paths at once? Post some scenarios where this is possible, please.
     
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    I prefer this distinction:

    " more recent definitions, base themselves on the terms' origins in Indian Tantra, the Right-Hand Path (RHP, or Dakshinachara), is seen as a definition for those magical groups that follow specific ethical codes and adopt social convention, while the Left-Hand Path (LHP, or Vamamarga) adopts the opposite attitude, espousing the breaking of taboo and the abandoning of set morality."

    You can have specific ethical codes (not killing others, or performing love magic), and adhere to social conventions in some aspects, while breaking taboo and pushing morality in others (cursing those who have wronged you).
     
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    This scenario would be maintaining your subjective mind separate from "The All," no? You are the one making the decision for yourself.

    Another useful tool:
    RHP = Thy will be done
    LHP = My will be done
     
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    My own Will can be done, while also doing the Will of various deities if so desired.

    It's not an on off switch. Working with a Deity(s) doesn't negate self deification.
     
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    keywords: "if so desired" Is your mind being overcome?
     
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    Hence a blend of two paths.

    Edit: and why I typically stay out of the LHP dir
     
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    If you are maintaining your own mind, it is LHP. (or at least Western LHP)
     
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    I have a few thoughts but can't think of how to form them into words
     
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    So many western lhp folk say you can't be lhp when following or worshiping deities. That's RHP.
    But one key thing with lhp is Self deifaction and following yourself over deities.
    Why can't I do both? Follow multiple deities and self deify? Combine the two?
     
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    You can certainly try it, especially if you are doing it on your own.
     
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    Exactly why I say my path isn't purely LHP or RHP and what @The Hammer. Meant. I'm following my own path. I'm mostly LHP at this time cuz I serve none but myself. And wish to deify the Self. But im RHP in the sense I do worship deities.
     
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    I would say you are theistic rather than RHP in this respect.
     
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    I'm going skim over the technical details for expediency's sake. I can go into more detail in PM if you wish:
    That would be specifically true in the context of Luciferianism, but not necessarily when working with other archetypes. Collective worship of Lucifer could very well result in having your individual mind devoured by the collective, which would be specifically RHP. (It would be kinda like being assimilated by the Borg.) For a contrasting example: individual or collective worship of Satan might result in raising of individuals' Shadows which may then devour separate individuals' minds, which might result in ego loss among those individuals, but not necessarily result in hive-mind assimilation.
     
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    I think there is really only "your path" which can deviate to the "left" or "right" as defined here. When faced with a crossroads, you can't go down two avenues at once.

    It's possible to act in seemingly RHP ways with LHP goals in mind, or uphold certain values for your own reasons. But I'm not sure how you can realistically split the difference between the two paths beyond that.

    It's probably irrelevant if the line is drawn at restriction and submission. In my opinion theistic beliefs are purely subjective though, and without some element of doubt they could possibly lead to delusion. But I wouldn't jump to that conclusion as some seem to do.
     
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    I would say that Theistic Satanism is LHP, because when the Shadow (Satan) is raised, even if it devours the ego, resulting in ego loss, ones mind still remains as an individual. The "covering cherub" protects from assimilation into hive mind collectives. Theistic Luciferianism, however, works in much the same way as Christianity, with the collective "Christ" and individuals being "raptured" to join "the prince of the Air." --RHP all the way
     
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    Is this related to a particular definition of Theistic Luciferianism? It seems like more of an umbrella term, but I don't know much about it.
     
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    The practice of communal theistic worship.
     
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