Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
You know that abortion empowers rapists and molesters, right? Get her pregnant, send her to the clinic or get a pill, and you are free to rape again. Why are you arguing for helping rapists cover their tracks?
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Satanists Claim Abortion a Religious Ritual
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Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
I was 99 percent right... and making a general statement.
Finding the one exception doesn't remove the facts.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Nope, nor does any sane person I imagine.
That post suggest the same tenuous grasp of rape, as your other posts do of abortion. Are we getting closer to some hidden truth here?
I'm not clearly, nor am I the one who has claimed a rape victim "has done something to cause it", which I am still prepared to accept was an error on your part, if you have the integrity to admit it, and not make slanderously spurious allegations at em for pointing it out.
Now to be clear, did you make a mistake here, or are you saying rape victims "did something to cause the situation"? Only you have had several posts to realise your error, and seem to be avoiding recanting this rather appalling claim? And are now resorting to making appalling false accusations about me?
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Source?
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Oh he likes to pluck stats out of thin air sometimes, it's pretty funny tbh.
Everyone knows that 99.79% of stats are made up on the spot...
Viker
Häxan
No, it doesn't. And , dammit, no we're not.
Viker
Häxan
You made that up.Oh he likes to pluck stats out of thin air sometimes, it's pretty funny tbh.
Everyone knows that 99.79% of stats are made up on the spot...
Sheldon
Veteran Member
He was trolling, to distract from his claim. Which inferred rape victims who became pregnant, had done something to cause it.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
You made that up.
I actually pinched it from an advertisement on UK tv, can't remember what it was for now, but it was pretty funny, so stuck in my mind.
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Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Ignoring the obvious doesn't help your cause.
Viker
Häxan
Really? I'm not the one who wrote this,
"If a baby is occupying your body, you did something to cause that situation."
That shifts blame/responsibility to a victim...then you'd expect her to not abort if she chooses. This means you believe a woman has no right to her own body and no right to decide for herself. If not, it is what you imply.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
How is she the victim in the other 99 percent? The baby is then the victim. Why do you focus on the tiny percentage instead of the vast majority of abortions that are simply for convenience?
Viker
Häxan
I'm focusing on your rational. Your blatant words and inability to answer for them. The percentage is irrelevant. Regardless, it's about a woman's right to her body and to decide what to do with her body. In context of the thread, it is perceived as a religious right for certain Satanists as well.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
No, it's about taking the life of another human being. That's not her body.
Killing isn't a right.
Viker
Häxan
It is her body. Don't give me "killing isn't a right". I doubt you mean that and it isn't relevant.
Just admit you made a mistake. That is all.
Fallen Prophet
Well-Known Member
The thing about "pro-choice" activists is that they keep moving the goalpost over the years.
First - "Its not alive its just a clump of cells" - but that was always wrong.
Then it was - "It may be alive but, its not human" - but that was always wrong.
Now its - "It may be a living human being, but its not a person."
Since the inception of the word "person" - it always meant "an individual human being".
However - once "pro-choice" activists made that word their keystone - they slapped all kinds of prerequisites to what a "person" really is.
Apparently, everyone had it wrong all along!
And it just so happens that - miraculously - that list of prerequisites zeros in on what the not-yet-born seem to lack - including ownership of property - for some reason.
And - also miraculously - only those who consider themselves to be "pro-choice" accept this new definition of the word "person", the list of prerequisites and the idea that the not-yet-born need to be designated as such in order to be considered inherently valuable.
This is very reminiscent of slaveholders and the many arguments they used to justify why they put Black people in chains.
I can imagine a slaveholder saying to an abolitionist - who claimed that they shouldn't enslave other human beings - something along the lines of,
"You can insist that an apple is an orange all you want, but at the end of the day it's still not citrus, no matter how hard you stomp your feet."
No, I meant that your attitude that consent can't be withdrawn once given is the attitude of a rapist.
Fallen Prophet
Well-Known Member
And everyone else too.
Fallen Prophet
Well-Known Member
That is unfortunate - but it has nothing to do with abortion - does it?
Heyo
Veteran Member
It refutes the argument that a woman can give up her child for adoption. It shows that the foster care system is broken.