Russia is not my enemy

[Estro Felino]

Since Vladimir Putin has recently said that Russia is under attack, and that "the West is fighting Russians with the hands of the Ukrainians" (source below),
I wanna state, I want to affirm that Russia is not my enemy and I speak on behalf of my country.
My country is hostage to the American Democratic Party that has decided to push for an escalation of this horrible conflict.

 

[Estro Felino]

I mean...Putin...duh...?
We all knew that Ukraine was just a pawn, and that the aim of the NATO was to attack Russia to conquer it and steal her resources from her.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Since Vladimir Putin has recently said that Russia is under attack, and that "the West is fighting Russians with the hands of the Ukrainians" (source below),
I wanna state, I want to affirm that Russia is not my enemy and I speak on behalf of my country.
My country is hostage to the American Democratic Party that has decided to push for an escalation of this horrible conflict.

Just something else about Italy:

‘A success for Kremlin propaganda’: how pro-Putin views permeate Italian media

With pro-Russia commentators regularly appearing on TV, Italians are less likely to back Ukraine than people in most other EU states

www.theguardian.com

 

[Estro Felino]

Just something else about Italy:

‘A success for Kremlin propaganda’: how pro-Putin views permeate Italian media

With pro-Russia commentators regularly appearing on TV, Italians are less likely to back Ukraine than people in most other EU states

www.theguardian.com

I have remarked that you are very good at finding the most thorough and detailed articles.
Much better than me.

It's all true...what is written.
The difference is that I consider it as something positive. You? As something negative?

 

[Eddi]

I want to affirm that Russia is not my enemy

You have made that abundantly clear with your ongoing slavish devotion to Putin and his cause

 

[Estro Felino]

You have made that abundantly clear with your ongoing slavish devotion to Putin and his cause

I love the slavish-Slavic pun.

 

[Altfish]

I mean...Putin...duh...?
We all knew that Ukraine was just a pawn, and that the aim of the NATO was to attack Russia to conquer it and steal her resources from her.

Again you are being very selective with your memory; the West appeased Russia over the Crimea, it emboldened Russia (or Putin) and he then went for Ukraine, next it will be Estonia, Latvia, etc.

 

[Estro Felino]

Again you are being very selective with your memory; the West appeased Russia over the Crimea, it emboldened Russia (or Putin) and he then went for Ukraine, next it will be Estonia, Latvia, etc.

In Crimea people speak Russian.
Do you know the oblast of Kaliningrad? People speak Russian there too...and they want to stay with the Russian Federation.
They couldn't care less about the Baltics because those are not Russian-speaking lands.

 

[blü 2]

Since Vladimir Putin has recently said that Russia is under attack, and that "the West is fighting Russians with the hands of the Ukrainians" (source below),
I wanna state, I want to affirm that Russia is not my enemy and I speak on behalf of my country.
My country is hostage to the American Democratic Party that has decided to push for an escalation of this horrible conflict.

I guess since according to the bible God approves of invasive war, not to mention the massacre of surrendered populations (but keeping the virgins for raping), you'll just smile and thank [him] when it's your turn to be invaded, hein?

 

[Altfish]

In Crimea people speak Russian.
Do you know the oblast of Kaliningrad? People speak Russian there too...and they want to stay with the Russian Federation.
They couldn't care less about the Baltics because those are not Russian-speaking lands.

In the US, they speak English .... does that mean it is ok for the UK to invade them

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I have remarked that you are very good at finding the most thorough and detailed articles.
Much better than me.

It's all true...what is written.
The difference is that I consider it as something positive. You? As something negative?

Yes, to me it is a negative.

 

[Stevicus]

Since Vladimir Putin has recently said that Russia is under attack, and that "the West is fighting Russians with the hands of the Ukrainians" (source below),
I wanna state, I want to affirm that Russia is not my enemy and I speak on behalf of my country.
My country is hostage to the American Democratic Party that has decided to push for an escalation of this horrible conflict.

Officially, we're not enemies with any country unless Congress makes a formal declaration of war. Undeclared or underground wars don't count in evaluating which countries are our "enemies" or not. If our government doesn't have the backbone or the courage to openly declare war and operate transparently and above board, the citizenry has no obligation to play along with their games.

 

[Estro Felino]

Officially, we're not enemies with any country unless Congress makes a formal declaration of war. Undeclared or underground wars don't count in evaluating which countries are our "enemies" or not. If our government doesn't have the backbone or the courage to openly declare war and operate transparently and above board, the citizenry has no obligation to play along with their games.

Bravo. Perfectly said.

 

[anna.]

Just something else about Italy:

‘A success for Kremlin propaganda’: how pro-Putin views permeate Italian media

With pro-Russia commentators regularly appearing on TV, Italians are less likely to back Ukraine than people in most other EU states

www.theguardian.com

From your link. This certainly explains a lot:

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“It’s not pacifism to suggest surrender as a solution,” said Arianna Ciccone, founder of Valigia Blu, an Italian independent factchecking website, and co-founder of the International Journalism Festival.​

​

“These people have always been historically anti-Nato. They hypocritically hide their anti-Americanism behind a ‘mask’ of pacifism. In some cases this results in genuine anti-Ukrainian sentiment. We’ve often had well-known journalists and philosophers on TV expressing doubts about Bucha and Mariupol. Not even with the mountain of evidence have they had the courage to admit the truth. How can they be pacifists?”​

 

[Estro Felino]

From your link. This certainly explains a lot:

​

“It’s not pacifism to suggest surrender as a solution,” said Arianna Ciccone, founder of Valigia Blu, an Italian independent factchecking website, and co-founder of the International Journalism Festival.​

​

“These people have always been historically anti-Nato. They hypocritically hide their anti-Americanism behind a ‘mask’ of pacifism. In some cases this results in genuine anti-Ukrainian sentiment. We’ve often had well-known journalists and philosophers on TV expressing doubts about Bucha and Mariupol. Not even with the mountain of evidence have they had the courage to admit the truth. How can they be pacifists?”​

This discourse should imply that the pro-Russian people have been anti-NATO since the times of the Pact of Warsaw, right?
So are they socialists? Communists?
I mean... many rightists support Russians because they believe Ukraine is at fault.
Berlusconi was one of them.

Berlusconi says has 'very negative' view of Zelensky - Ukraine - Ansa.it

Ex premier a pro-Putin agitator damaging Italy says Kyiv (ANSA)

www.ansa.it

 

[F1fan]

I mean...Putin...duh...?
We all knew that Ukraine was just a pawn, and that the aim of the NATO was to attack Russia to conquer it and steal her resources from her.

What a shame that putin overestimated the competency of his military, and his own leadership. Just another dumb authoritarian who has sabotaged his own life, his nation, his economy, and his reputation. He made a gamble and he's losing. No one owes him anything. The world does stand behind the people that putin attacked. Losers will lose, and putin keeps losing. Trump is also losing. The two can have each other. Authoritarian leaders are not trustworthy, and citizens want democracy and freedom. putin has no chance to win. Get over him, he's only dragging you down.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's fascinating to discern the reasons that people
fall under the spell of brutal authoritarian leaders.
Putin, Trump, Hitler, Mao, Mussolini, Netanyahu.
People who ordinarily would be peaceful & fair,
latch onto leaders who foment a shared hatred.
Then they're willing to approve of evil deeds.

 

[Estro Felino]

People who ordinarily would be peaceful & fair,
latch onto leaders who foment a shared hatred.
Then they're willing to approve of evil deeds.

The banking élites declared war on the European Civilization...and the globalist sewer supports them.

I don't side with them...I am sorry. I cannot but hope for a juster world, and I am saying that Russia is defending herself.
I cannot but agree with Putin.

 

[Estro Felino]

What a shame that putin overestimated the competency of his military, and his own leadership. Just another dumb authoritarian who has sabotaged his own life, his nation, his economy, and his reputation. He made a gamble and he's losing. No one owes him anything. The world does stand behind the people that putin attacked. Losers will lose, and putin keeps losing. Trump is also losing. The two can have each other. Authoritarian leaders are not trustworthy, and citizens want democracy and freedom. putin has no chance to win. Get over him, he's only dragging you down.

I honestly hope that those banking élites go ahead with their mad plans...because that would compact the nationalist front in Europe,...and give me few years and this disgusting European Union will be dismantled piece by piece...
and those élites will be kicked out and sent to the tax havens of the Caribbean Sea, where they belong.

 

[Stevicus]

This discourse should imply that the pro-Russian people have been anti-NATO since the times of the Pact of Warsaw, right?
So are they socialists? Communists?
I mean... many rightists support Russians because they believe Ukraine is at fault.
Berlusconi was one of them.

Berlusconi says has 'very negative' view of Zelensky - Ukraine - Ansa.it

Ex premier a pro-Putin agitator damaging Italy says Kyiv (ANSA)

www.ansa.it

What I've noticed in the discourse is a strong insistence from many that everyone must take sides in this conflict (or that they've secretly taken sides yet won't admit it), even those who are neither Ukrainian nor Russian nor live in that particular region. "Anti-NATO," "Pro-Russian," etc. - what do these labels even mean when used in Western countries? Are we supposed to take sides in other countries' conflicts? Is there some sort of civic or patriotic obligation to do so?

I believe that my patriotic obligations (if there is such a thing) are to America, not to other countries. I support that which I believe to be good for America (even if others may not agree with my views on that subject). Towards that end, I believe we should take a more realistic and pragmatic view of the world and America's role in it. I'm not necessarily anti-NATO, but I think we need to be more adaptable to changing world conditions.