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Rush Limbaugh | Voice of the GOP?

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
Limbaugh lost some advertisers and has come out with an apology.
He lost a lot from what I've heard. I heard it was up to 20 as of this morning, but I don't know how valid that is since it was from a far-left leaning radio program.
 

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
I've heard it's as high as 30 now. But then again, not sure of the veracity of the reports. Only 7 to my knowledge are verified.
 

pwfaith

Active Member
But isn't he just another DJ? If Howard Stern can say whatever he wants on his show can't Rush do the same? Just because he favors radical right GOP listeners doesn't make him an official spokesperson for them and they shouldn't be held accountable for his actions. Or am I wrong?

I completely agree. I'm so tired of hearing people call for the GOP to comment on all this. How many called for Dems to be held accountable for Bill Maher's comments about Sarah Palin??? Has he apologized yet???
 

pwfaith

Active Member
He certainly portrays himself as a GOP mouth piece. As for whether the GOP wants him to keep his mouth shut or not, the way I see it is if you're not condemning the BS they're spewing, then you're ok with those people saying it. If the GOP goes silent when they're asked where they stand on Rushy-Poo's remarks, I think you'll have your answer.

Rush makes a stink almost every day. Every time he opens his mouth people find something offensive in what he's saying. So how often should the GOP or the Dems speak up at the offenses entertainers/talk show hosts/shock jocks make? Daily? Weekly? Only when it's REALLY offensive? Who's to say when that is? I just can't see the sense in "silence equals acceptance" when it comes to stuff like this, esp with the frequency it happens at, on both sides. That's the nature of these shows, imo, to make comments that stir the political pot, so to speak. Of course they're going to step on some toes. I just can't see either side having to speak up every.single.time. It's just silly to me.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
Rush makes a stink almost every day. Every time he opens his mouth people find something offensive in what he's saying. So how often should the GOP or the Dems speak up at the offenses entertainers/talk show hosts/shock jocks make? Daily? Weekly? Only when it's REALLY offensive? Who's to say when that is? I just can't see the sense in "silence equals acceptance" when it comes to stuff like this, esp with the frequency it happens at, on both sides. That's the nature of these shows, imo, to make comments that stir the political pot, so to speak. Of course they're going to step on some toes. I just can't see either side having to speak up every.single.time. It's just silly to me.
How about ever? When directly asked?
 

pwfaith

Active Member
LOL It's like he needs to start his show every time with one of those warnings you see other places "The views, opinions, positions or strategies expressed by the authors and those providing comments are theirs alone, and do not necessarily reflect the views of the GOP political leaders or other members of the Republican party" OR "The views expressed are solely his own." I always figured this was kind of just known or common sense with these kinds of people (talk show hosts/shock jocks/entertainers) but evidently not.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
Rush makes a stink almost every day. Every time he opens his mouth people find something offensive in what he's saying. So how often should the GOP or the Dems speak up at the offenses entertainers/talk show hosts/shock jocks make? Daily? Weekly? Only when it's REALLY offensive? Who's to say when that is? I just can't see the sense in "silence equals acceptance" when it comes to stuff like this, esp with the frequency it happens at, on both sides. That's the nature of these shows, imo, to make comments that stir the political pot, so to speak. Of course they're going to step on some toes. I just can't see either side having to speak up every.single.time. It's just silly to me.
Rush's comments don't make national headlines everyday. If said person is spouting to be a mouth piece for the political party and values you represent, and they do something so offensive that it gains national attention, then it should be spoken out against every time. Why would you even risk wanting to be associated with something like that (especially in an election year) unless you're okay with it? If someone asked Obama if he sided with one of Bill Maher's comments about Sara Palin, I'm pretty sure he would say "no."
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
LOL It's like he needs to start his show every time with one of those warnings you see other places "The views, opinions, positions or strategies expressed by the authors and those providing comments are theirs alone, and do not necessarily reflect the views of the GOP political leaders or other members of the Republican party" OR "The views expressed are solely his own." I always figured this was kind of just known or common sense with these kinds of people (talk show hosts/shock jocks/entertainers) but evidently not.
No, the GOP leadership just needs to say so. When they refuse to respond, that's an answer.
 

pwfaith

Active Member
If someone asked Obama if he sided with one of Bill Maher's comments about Sara Palin, I'm pretty sure he would say "no."

Out of curiosity, what was Obama's reaction to his comments? Did he call Sarah Palin to apologize for Maher's nasty comments?

Ed Schultz called Laura Ingrahamhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/laura-ingraham/ a ‘****’ on his radio show. MSNBC suspended him for a week, but none of Schultz’s advertisers dropped his show under media pressure. Where was the outcry then for MSNBC to drop him or his sponsors to leave his show?

Obama's not going to call out Maher. Dude gave him a million $ donation. Talk about slapping the hand that feeds you!
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
pwfaith said:
Out of curiosity, what was Obama's reaction to his comments? Did he call Sarah Palin to apologize for Maher's nasty comments?
Where did anyone say the GOP had to apologize on the behalf of Rush?

pwfaith said:
Ed Schultz called Laura Ingraham a ‘****’ on his radio show. MSNBC suspended him for a week, but none of Schultz’s advertisers dropped his show under media pressure. Where was the outcry then for MSNBC to drop him or his sponsors to leave his show?
Yeah and Rush hasn't been suspended yet, has he? I would be very surprised if there was no outcry for Ed Schultz's comment. There's always outcry from comments made by far-reaching political DJ's, like the CEO for Carbonite said after announcing they were pulling their advertisement from Rush's show. They've just never had this much of an outcry before, which is why they're pulling it in this instance.

pwfaith said:
Obama's not going to call out Maher. Dude gave him a million $ donation. Talk about slapping the hand that feeds you!
Obama's shown he's willing to distance himself from people who made racy comments in the past, I'm pretty sure he would have no problem disagreeing with rude comments about Sara Palin, even if Maher is a supporter. Whether or not he's doing for moral or political reasons, It's political suicide if you don't. That's just being smart if you're a politician.
 

pwfaith

Active Member
Where did anyone say the GOP had to apologize on the behalf of Rush?

Apologize, no. But make a public statement of disagreement, absolutely.


Obama's shown he's willing to distance himself from people who made racy comments in the past, I'm pretty sure he would have no problem disagreeing with rude comments about Sara Palin, even if Maher is a supporter. Whether or not he's doing for moral or political reasons, It's political suicide if you don't. That's just being smart if you're a politician.

Well it's been, what, a year since Maher made his comment, what are left leaders waiting for? I don't recall hearing anything from Obama over the last year on it, but I could be wrong. I don't recall him calling Sarah Palin expressing his concern for her and making sure she was ok. Again, I didn't follow it super close, so I may have missed it.
 

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
I think this comes back to those who are in the limelight, the public eye, have to deal with public opinion, and that opinion sometimes can be very rude and crude. Fluke wasn't in the spotlight, she wasn't a public celebrity; she was a college student. To compare the two is to make this thing a huge oversimplification.
 

Jeremy Mason

Well-Known Member
Well it's been, what, a year since Maher made his comment, what are left leaders waiting for? I don't recall hearing anything from Obama over the last year on it, but I could be wrong. I don't recall him calling Sarah Palin expressing his concern for her and making sure she was ok. Again, I didn't follow it super close, so I may have missed it.

Bill Maher is a self proclaimed comedian. Rush isn't.
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
Out of curiosity, what was Obama's reaction to his comments? Did he call Sarah Palin to apologize for Maher's nasty comments?

Ed Schultz called Laura Ingrahamhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/laura-ingraham/ a ‘****’ on his radio show. MSNBC suspended him for a week, but none of Schultz’s advertisers dropped his show under media pressure. Where was the outcry then for MSNBC to drop him or his sponsors to leave his show?

Obama's not going to call out Maher. Dude gave him a million $ donation. Talk about slapping the hand that feeds you!

I think this comes back to those who are in the limelight, the public eye, have to deal with public opinion, and that opinion sometimes can be very rude and crude. Fluke wasn't in the spotlight, she wasn't a public celebrity; she was a college student. To compare the two is to make this thing a huge oversimplification.
Bill Maher is a self proclaimed comedian. Rush isn't.
@pwfaith - while I agree with both dyanaprajna2011 and Jeremy Mason here, there are some aspects which should be emphasized. Rush Limbaugh (horrifically and laughably) sells himself as a wholesome spreader of the truth. A purveyor of honesty and enlightenment. And on the many, many occasions where he lies or insults people blatantly, and he is confronted with the footage of his own outrages. His response is either
A. - ignore it entirely (ala Fox News style),
B. - belittle the whistlblower and/or make a backstabbing "apology" then proceed with twice the vitriol (like this time), or....
C. - say "It was a joke! Can't you worthless ***** take a ******* joke? Jeez! you liberal scum and your drive-by, marxist journalists sure must be on the rag today!" ........ or words to that effect.

Second. While Rush self-describes himself as an honest speaker of Truth and Justice. Mahar has never claimed to be more than a comedian. .....and.....(I haven't yet checked this out) I have heard that Maher's comments were made during a stand-up stage act.....not on his main show. Either way though. Really......:shrug:

Third. As pointed out by others; Obama has in the past, and likely would if confronted, condemn such language, even from his financial supporters. And even if he did, that is not require him to return any funds from the comedian Bill Maher.
 

bigbadgirl

Active Member
All hail Rush. Rush, the voice of stupidity, highlighted by the lack of intelligence, and the complete lack of common sense. The perfect American. Nobody does it worse.
 

work in progress

Well-Known Member
Out of curiosity, what was Obama's reaction to his comments? Did he call Sarah Palin to apologize for Maher's nasty comments?
Did Sarah Palin apologize for putting crosshair targets on key Democratic congressional districts...including Gabbie Giffords? But, I guess what Maher said about her is worse than her encouraging of violence against Democratic politicians!

Ed Schultz called Laura Ingraham a ‘****’ on his radio show. MSNBC suspended him for a week, but none of Schultz’s advertisers dropped his show under media pressure. Where was the outcry then for MSNBC to drop him or his sponsors to leave his show?
And, if you haven't noticed a difference yet between Palin, Laura Ingraham and Sandra Fluke -- the latter is a common citizen, not a public figure (who's notoriety means they do not get granted as much protection against slander and defamation of character as an ordinary person). And besides, those two may have been called a bad word once or twice, but Ms. Fluke was subjected to a week-long barrage of vile accusations from Gasbag Limbaugh...who apparently doesn't understand the basics of how oral contraceptives function. Yesterday, I learned that the latest thing the right is worked up about is Gloria Allred declaring that Limbaugh could be prosecuted in Florida for the things he said.....Go Gloria:clap

Obama's not going to call out Maher. Dude gave him a million $ donation. Talk about slapping the hand that feeds you!
Now, you're getting to the only real issue. Sarah Palin doesn't deserve the same consideration as a private citizen being harassed by a major media celebrity, but Bill Maher is every bit a misogynist as Limbaugh....maybe even worse, since he has sex with women, and has said lots of disgusting things about women over the years, just like Limbaugh! Maybe that's why Maher has taken it upon himself to set little things like political differences aside, to show solidarity with a fellow misogynist:
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Bill Maher Addresses Criticism for Sexist Remarks and False Equivalencies to Limbaugh. - YouTube
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
Who knew that Rush Limbaugh would be the crux of the debate on what a positive right to health care actually means or the debate on contraceptives.
 

work in progress

Well-Known Member
Who knew that Rush Limbaugh would be the crux of the debate on what a positive right to health care actually means or the debate on contraceptives.
No doubt that wasn't Limbaugh's intentions, but I've noticed the same thing in the last week or so, as even the cable news discussions are featuring women clarifying exactly how contraceptives work, and why many women who have to pay for health care, should have things like contraception covered, if men can get viagra and vasectomies covered by their insurance plans.
 
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