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Rule #2: Discussion of Moderation

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Heyo, Feb 26, 2021.

  1. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    I'm not offering any particular measure to take here.
    But when staff receive feedback about impressions,
    It might offer an opportunity to better understand the
    mind of civilians. This could inspire something useful.
     
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  2. Debater Slayer

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    It could, as long as the feedback and impressions aren't based on gossip or repeatedly clarified misconceptions.

    Something one has to accept as a fact of life is that no matter what one does when working among a lot of people, someone will always be dissatisfied or insistent on a misunderstanding regardless of any clarification to the contrary. That is why identifying priorities and picking one's battles is an essential skill to have.

    The above applies both to RF and in-person interactions, from my experience.
     
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  3. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    In my post, I was leaving the possible solutions up
    to you guys. I assume staff would be judicious.
    No disagreement here.
     
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  4. Heyo

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    I think it could lessen your work load if you'd explain frequently asked questions in an open site feedback, either in discussion with someone who wants to have an open discussion or simply as a report with anonymised examples. It beats having to explain it over and over again.
     
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  5. nPeace

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    I know this is an old thread, but I decided to revive it, instead of starting a new one.
    I have had the same experience as @Koldo.
    I'll like to ask a question... or two, since I am not sure if it will be answered in Site Feedback (SF).
    Are posts in Site Feedback answered, where there is genuine query? Are there times when posts are ignored, and on what criteria?
    Where does one make inquiries in the event that post were ignored that did not fit those criterion?
     
  6. Quagmire

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    Hopefully you noticed that the reports that @Koldo was talking about turned out to be imaginary.

    We can only deal with actual reports, not reports that a member intended to make but never did.
     
  7. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    My only concern is bias. Political, health, or otherwise.

    RF isn't perfect imo, but it still has a reasonable and fair system in general.
     
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  8. nPeace

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    Obviously @Koldo is not everyone, as you know.
     
  9. Quagmire

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    Not seeing your point.

    You said you were having the same experience that @Koldo had.
     
  10. nPeace

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    The same experience he referred to in this post. Not where he might have said he did not report, when he thought he did.
     
  11. Quagmire

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    Yes, I know what you meant.

    That's not what he said. That's what I said.
     
  12. nPeace

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    @Quagmire my questions were not to @Debater Slayer alone. Any staff member can answer.
    Are posts in Site Feedback answered, where there is genuine query? Are there times when posts are ignored, and on what criteria?
    Where does one make inquiries in the event that post were ignored that did not fit those criterion?
     
  13. nPeace

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    You saw my point then... or you didn't?
     
  14. Quagmire

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    Generally yes, which is why every site feedback thread you've ever made aside from your most recent one, and there've been a few, was answered almost immediately.

    I just checked.

    Posts in Site Feedback are never ignored, but, just speaking for myself, I tend to de-prioritize site feedback threads that start out with loaded questions, accusations, sermons, tantrums, or anything else that tells me I'd be better off devoting my time and attention to something else.

    Fortunately there are staff members who have more patience than I do, so even those threads tend to get taken care of.

    I also tend to put site feedback threads on the back burner if it's the same member asking the same questions that've been answered multiple times before. I figure if they didn't get it the first half a dozen times, one more time probably isn't going to make a difference.

    I try to give my time to issues where I think it's actually going to do some good.

    When someone says,"I'm not seeing your point", that generally means they're not seeing your point.

    And at this point I'm wondering if you can see your own point because you seem to have lost track.
     
  15. Aštra’el

    Aštra’el Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth

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    I like to imagine I’ve become quite proficient at skating on thin ice. I guess… operating within the rules just comes naturally when you’ve become “authoritarian”.
     
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  16. nPeace

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    I understand personal feelings get in the way at times. Should that be a quality of good moderation?
    Obviously all moderators would not have the same opinion. So it's a matter of personal feelings then?

    Yes. My point was made. So how can it be I have lost track? That's a contradiction, isn't it?
    I'll like to make the point that one cannot base all instances on just one. Generally, that is done where that one instance is favorable to ones position.
     
  17. Quagmire

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    No. How'd we get on that topic?

    About what?

    You know, just because you don't like the answers your getting doesn't mean that the person giving the answers has it out for you.

    I don't know, but somehow you managed to.

    If it is, it's yours so I'll just let you deal with it.

    Absolutely no idea what you're talking about now.

    Which "one instance" are we talking about here?
     
  18. Heyo

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    Thank you.
    Just FYI: I have currently an unanswered question on Site Feedback though I have also to admit that I wasn't very humble or friendly when asking. I let it slide since I cool off quickly but those unresolved matters stack up and at every new event I get more and more emotional.
     
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  19. nPeace

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    I'm not allowed to comment on the behavior of moderators. Good bye.
     
  20. nPeace

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    I think whether someone responds emotionally or not, is irrelevant to queries in an area set up for site feedback, but maybe I am just too unimportant to know.
     
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