Yes I am sure... but not sure about the second question.Are you sure about that? If so then why was it holey?
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Yes I am sure... but not sure about the second question.Are you sure about that? If so then why was it holey?
Then you should not be sure about the first. Did you forget that the risen Jesus was both holy and holey?Yes I am sure... but not sure about the second question.
I am sure about the first. The eternal body was eternal before and after and still holds the mark for your salvation and mine (in context of my signature).Then you should not be sure about the first. Did you forget that the risen Jesus was both holy and holey?
Your Bible disagrees with you. You forgot your own resurrection myth.I am sure about the first. The eternal body was eternal before and after and still holds the mark for your salvation and mine (in context of my signature).
Jesus didn't sin so death had no authority over him. Since his body was created through the Word (as was all that we see) - He was created like unto Adam before Adam sinned.
You saying something without scriptural support remains a shot in the dark.Your Bible disagrees with you. You forgot your own resurrection myth.
RISE OF THE DEAD:
How compatible is the idea of literally return of dead people back to life, with science and philosophy?
Consider these scenarios:
1. If one has been eaten by a shark, then in turn, part of the flash had turned to energy, partly became the flash of the shark, and partly waste. Later that shark, dies, and its body was eaten by other fish.
A. Then on the Judgement Day, where and which location the physical body is generated, or the particles come back togther considering there is no grave.
Discuss scientifically and philosophically.
2. A baby who passed away, immediately after birth, or just before birth, and now is kept in an Alcohol container.
3. Albert Einstein, whose brain is kept in Alcohol container. How would His brain, as body part comes back and reassembled with the rest of the Body?
4. The idea of belief in resurrection of a dead in some ways, existed in non- Abrahamic ancient beliefs or myths, such as Osiris who was a resurrected king.
Did Abrahamic religions get their idea of resurrection from the myths, or it was the other way around? Discuss from historical point of view.
5. In Zoroasterism, we can see belief in the Judgement Day, and general resurrection. Did Abrahamic religions get their idea about Judgement Day from Zoroasterism or it was the other way around? Discuss from historical point of view.
Or why assume that it is the same energy?why do you assume it is made of the same material?
You saying something without scriptural support remains a shot in the dark.
Come to the light of "source"
Mass is trapped energy (E = mc^2).
So, mass and energy should be discussed together. Conservation of energy is really conservation of mass and energy together.
When someone dies, it isn't just a matter of energy never being destroyed. It is a matter of the form of that energy, and a matter of the storage of the knowledge.
If thinking is just a matter of energy, we should be able to think better if we plug our tongues into light sockets. Thinking doesn't work that way.
Memory, in a human, is similar to memory in a computer. There is a specific place where memories are stored. The brain is like a biological computer. Its wiring is different. Instead of binary (zeros and ones), the brain uses fuzzy logic (luke warm, warm, tepid, hot, scalding)....various degrees. There are about six levels. The same is with taste and smell.
In addition to using fuzzy logic, the brain forms complicated interconnections (they call it a neural net). Computers can be constructed on this principle, as well, but they are called neural networks.
The brain can actually grow new neurons to interconnect thoughts so that we could retrieve them. For example, if we remember a green ball, we could think of green things, and things that are balls.
To retain memory, when someone dies, their memory has to be stored in somewhat the same order, and the brain has to be wired somewhat the same way with complicated interconnections. It is rather unlikely. Furthermore, this process has never been observed.
However, psyhics seem to draw knowledge out of nowhere (the air?) Surely that knowledge is organized somehow.
If it is possible that energy of thoughts could be stored in space (or air), maybe there is some entity that uses the same storage media for thinking. That entity might be God. However, this is all highly speculative.
Many of our politicians have had their brains pickled in alcohol for years (but they were still alive at the time). Ulysses S Grant, for example.
Because spirit is eternal.Or why assume that it is the same energy?
Then you should not be sure about the first. Did you forget that the risen Jesus was both holy and holey?
True, and that is why I have the signature below.Many question the validity of scriptures. So, even with scriptural support, some might not believe.
what if is is simple transferred to a thumb-drive called "your spirit"?
True, and that is why I have the signature below.
But surely he shouldn't make a statement without siting where he is speaking from.
The very idea of "dying and rising" is a mix of human conditions in a life time and of watching humanlike star constellations turning around on the night Sky, thus making four mytho-astronomic cardinal positions from the point of view of:4. The idea of belief in resurrection of a dead in some ways, existed in non- Abrahamic ancient beliefs or myths, such as Osiris who was a resurrected king.
Did Abrahamic religions get their idea of resurrection from the myths, or it was the other way around? Discuss from historical point of view.
5. In Zoroasterism, we can see belief in the Judgement Day, and general resurrection. Did Abrahamic religions get their idea about Judgement Day from Zoroasterism or it was the other way around? Discuss from historical point of view.
Probably from the Jesus story where he still had the same body. Nail holes and all.
That is a good question. Obviously man still knows about a pin-head of knowledge as compared to what still needs to be discovered.Of course, that is the idea of a soul. But the question is, how is the knowledge of the brain stored in the soul?
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What does the scriptures say? Does it say, it is the same fingers assembled? Or it says, different material?
What does Quran say? What does the Christian Bible say, such as story of Lazarus? What does Hebrew Bible say?
I'm not sure how that is applicable to my statement of "support your statement with a scripture". Perhaps open a different thread?Actually, many in the Christian faith also have different beliefs. This is because they don't believe everything that they read in the bible, and they pick out what they want to believe. Thus, they cherry pick what they want out of the bible. This leads to a lot of problems. For example, they are supposed to not kill (God's commandment), yet they come up with very good reasons to defend themselves, and sometimes make mistakes and attack those who are not even guilty....for example, Iraq was not linked with terrorism.
I would find it difficult to believe that people, who calls themselves Christian, would not believe in an afterlife. That is, after all, the goal (eternal life in the bliss of heaven). So this seems to be invariant in all Christians. Some might go to war, but they still believe in heaven and a soul.
How compatible is the idea of literally return of dead people back to life, with science and philosophy?