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Richard Dawkins - Unweaving the Rainbow - worth $5?

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by nnmartin, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. Krok

    Krok Active Member

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    I've got a copy. And read it. Nowhere does he even attempt anything like "provide scientific proof about things".

    Discrediting something is not the same as to "provide scientific proof about things".:no:
     
  2. nnmartin

    nnmartin Well-Known Member

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    Update on Weaving the Rainbow: I made it to page 5 then couldn't take any more!

    It really is utter garbage, can't understand why this Dawkins person has any success as a publisher. He really shouldn't be allowed to write.

    I'm fairly sure I could write a better book myself - may even give it a go one day.

    so I am afraid I cannot give my expert opinon on this book so you will all have to try it yourself - I did try though.
     
  3. Splarnst

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    Why did you stop? What makes it "utter garbage"? Please give us a specific example. As far as I can tell, the only part you read is the name of the author.
     
  4. Noaidi

    Noaidi slow walker

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    Seriously? I read the preface and part of chapter one last night, and was impressed with the views Dawkins put forward. The pursuit of science in no way detracts from the beauty we observe in the world. What did you find so offensive or unbelievable that made you stop reading?

    No, you didn't :p
     
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  5. meogi

    meogi Well-Known Member

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    My prediction was correct... shocking. :rolleyes:
     
  6. gnomon

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    Hilarious.

    He's not a publisher. He's a scientist who has written many books. The publishers would be Oxford Books, Basic Books, Houghton Mifflin, etc.

    Creationists do not supply expert opinions.
     
  7. painted wolf

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    This thread is hilarious... :biglaugh:
    I may actually have to read a Dawkins book now. I wonder if my library has it?

    wa:do
     
  8. Photonic

    Photonic Ad astra!

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    Honestly, you being a biology student, I'm highly surprised you haven't.

    I had to read some of him when I was in AP Bio back in high school.
     
  9. painted wolf

    painted wolf Grey Muzzle

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    Nope... I read some Darwin, Gould, Sean B. Carrol, E.O.Wilson, Carl Zimmer and so on. Mostly on my own time.
    In classes we read primary literature and other science articles.

    wa:do
     
  10. Jayhawker Soule

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    :biglaugh:
     
  11. Noaidi

    Noaidi slow walker

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    Perhaps you could give us the balanced report on the 5 pages you read...;)
     
  12. Sunstone

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  13. nnmartin

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    I could cut and past the whole 4 1/2 pages that I read if you like?

    I didn't even bother with the preface as that was just hardcore waffle. So I just jumped straight to the good stuff - as disappointing as expected.

    I don't think science and attempted literature mix. It's one or the other I think.

    However I do have a real science book that I will have a go on later though I usually find them a little tedious to read, again too much waffle - I prefer the God stuff really.

    Perhaps Steven Hawking is a better bet - there are some of his books in my local shop - he has a similar sounding name but I seem to remember he is of a higher intellectual calibre than old Professor Plod Dawkins so maybe that is what is needed.
     
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  14. Splarnst

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    Yes, please do so. Or, if that's too much work, you could give us an example, like I originally asked. I'd like to see what you think is "utter garbage." It would amuse me.
     
  15. nnmartin

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    Here is the first paragraph:

    I only made it to the second sentence before the alarm bells started ringing - I've highlighted it in bold as it's just so daft.

    Anyway I am sure there are plenty of bones to pick through in this first paragraph - the rest of the 5 pages just carried on it the same vein.
     
  16. Gjallarhorn

    Gjallarhorn N'yog-Sothep

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    ...I don't understand why it upset you.
     
  17. nnmartin

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    it's just pseudo-philosophy.

    I was hoping for a book that was going to explain the arts in a scientific way - reminded me too much of 'Blind Watchmaker' and his ridiculous mathematical theories.
     
  18. Gjallarhorn

    Gjallarhorn N'yog-Sothep

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    Was it a philosophy? Sounded more like an observation.
     
  19. painted wolf

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    It sounded like a poetic thought exercise... a way to get people to consider how fortunate they are to be alive. A little poetic thinking to warm up the old brain cells before discussing art.

    wa:do
     
  20. nnmartin

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    Perhaps one paragraph sounds ok but a whole book of this sort of stuff was just too much (well 4 and a half pages). The waffling gets worse though.

    anyway, I think I am a little biased against poor old Dawkins.

    I still say that a 50/50 split between science and religion/philosophy doesn't make great reading as it's neither one thing or the other.
     
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