Master Vigil said:
I agree with painted wolf, damn i love the native americans!! all things with life have a soul, the soul before all else gives them life.
Nah, it's the chemical nature of amino acids before everything else that gives life.
To take one and not the other disturbs balance. We as humans are, and always were, omnivores. This is because in the beginning, we had balance, we could eat both. But if you eat one more than the other this balance is disturbs. Granted you can live healthily as a vegetarian but it takes too much effort.
Vegetarians without eggs and a few other "fringe" animal products, possibly. Vegetarian diets with those things does just fine.
Balance is easy to follow, but still hard to maintain. And of course, I feel the same way that when having a garden, one should respect the plants as much as when having a cattle ranch. No one thanks the plants and animals anymore when they eat them. Humans think they are above nature. Stupid humans!!
Why thank the animals/plants? They don't care, they're dead. Ever see a lion thank the buffalo carcass it's chomping into?
Also, though plants don't have a central neural system, they do have a chemical system of detecting injury and even light touches.
Blessed said:
i definately see your point about the plants but as maz said we need to eat something and as far as this planet goes it takes lot less ground et.c to grow plants for consumption than animals- plus it is true that the whole planet ould live on a vegetarian diet with no starvation. the cattle and pigs would stop being bred intensively and slowly drop in numbers until they reached a steady state. the money that was being spent on feed for the animals, slaughter houses and land could be used for land and seeds saving a lot of money and feeding more people.
i would never try to stop a person eating meat but it is important to aknowledge that this planet is in need of our help
Intensive farming is damaging to the environment, and harvesting of the crops kills
millions of animals unintentionally every year that we don't even use for meat.
Organic farming isn't much better. How do you think they get rid of parasites and other nasties that mess with the crops? They put in more predators, which again, damages the environment.
The trouble with the "all the land used for meat could be used for crops" simply isn't true. Not all land is equally fertile, which is why farmers have different types of field, be they grazing or crops.
Steven Davis, professor of animal science at Oregon State University (at least one study has shown that simply mowing an alfalfa field caused a 50% reduction in the gray-tailed vole population)
The Least Harm Principle Suggests that Humans Should Eat Beef, Lamb, Dairy, not a Vegan Diet. - The following abstract and the aforementioned title were written by S.L. Davis, Department of Animal Sciences, Oregon State University, Corvallis
Happy reading.