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Republican Senators appear not to want part in a Constitutional crisis
- Thread starter PoetPhilosopher
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Fair enough, now it is up to us to accept the results once they are confirmed. Sour grapes are fine in the discussion following, but violence is not appropriate. Period. (I don't think anyone on this forum would advocate such a thing, but I like to say it just in case.)
Do you believe them?
joe1776
Well-Known Member
Republican Senators appear not to want part in a Constitutional crisis
You mean they want to add a conservative to gain a 6-3 advantage in the Supreme Court. Then if they can force a close election into the Court, they're willing to accept the result?
Well, why wouldn't they?
The Democrats can only win if they win by a wide margin. If it's close, the GOP will use the Supremes to steal it.
You mean they want to add a conservative to gain a 6-3 advantage in the Supreme Court. Then if they can force a close election into the Court, they're willing to accept the result?
Well, why wouldn't they?
The Democrats can only win if they win by a wide margin. If it's close, the GOP will use the Supremes to steal it.
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From the linked article ...
Anyone who believes that "there is no question" that "the president" will "assure that there would be a peaceful transition of power" is delusional.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
But, as what's happened all too much is that when push comes to shove, they tend to fall in line behind Trump and McConnell.
IMO, the key is to watch McConnell, because if he were to go along with declaring a Biden victory a "fraud", I expect the vast majority of congressional Pubs to fall in line. The irony, as weird as this may sound, the survival of our democracy could end up in McConnell's hands. If he were to back up Trump, we may end up in civil war, and this isn't hyperbole on my part.
PoetPhilosopher
Veteran Member
I'm 50-50. Not naive enough to believe them fully, but not ready to say they don't have any limits to what they'll do. They're not as bad as Trump.
PoetPhilosopher
Veteran Member
Good post.
Contested elections are not unusual. How is this a Constitutional crisis?
PoetPhilosopher
Veteran Member
If I recall, Trump has said before that he could refuse to leave.
This goes against the peaceful transition of power.
PoetPhilosopher
Veteran Member
For the record, I'm not really taking sides in this particular thread. But I still thought it important to post. You see, if Republicans backpedal on these statements, this thread does serve as a record that they did indeed backpeddle.
Do you have a quote? Not, saying you are wrong. What I have seen is that Trump didn't directly answer the question when it was put to him and that he may investigate if he feels voter fraud was involved. However, I expect this would all be fought out in the courts long before Biden, if he wins comes into office.
I don't understand what people think Trump is going to do, fall to the floor and throw a fit as he is dragged from the White House. I suspect a few might even enjoy watching this happen. I don't see where Trump has any power beyond contesting it in court.
PoetPhilosopher
Veteran Member
I think that's what we know. However, I think some of us are trying to be extra cautious and fill in the blanks to what he said, based on him already being impeached for other crimes and then we've also got him trying to downplay the integrity of the election process and what's even worse, tampering with the post office.
For all we know, he could just be saying all of this to try to troll the media because he doesn't like them. But some of us Americans take the integrity of elections as not something to joke about. So when one makes these comments, people are bound to draw conclusions and be cautious.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Yes, I can't help but think this sort of wild behaviour will cost Trump more votes. I cannot imagine most US citizens want a country in which the elections are damaged and called into question by the president.
By the way I think Biden is wise not to join in the hullabaloo. I think Trump hopes to draw him into a shouting match about it.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Ok. Whatever. We've heard this before and it was all talk.
Read the 'liberal only' thread on what can happen.
Read the Atlantic article coming in November.
Well, we'll see. It's definitely going to be contested, and there will likely be squabbling about it in the aftermath. But in the end, I'm still hopeful it will be peaceful and legal, if only for the sake of national stability.
The subhead to that piece says it all. As far as I'm concerned it's all mouth noise Kabuki. Mitch will use all the power at his disposal to put the Great Leader on the throne.
But the GOP isn't saying what they'll do if the president resists leaving office.
But the GOP isn't saying what they'll do if the president resists leaving office.
That's fine. I just think it's a non-issue. If I am wrong I am wrong. I just don't see it being anything to worry about yet.