Luciferi Baphomet
Lucifer, is my Liberator
Agreed.
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Report: Plan To Force God Into Public Schools Released
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Yerda
Veteran Member
This is from the Washington post:
The five-page document produced by the Council for National Policy calls for a “restoration of education in America” that would minimize the federal role, promote religious schools and home schooling and enshrine “historic Judeo-Christian principles” as a basis for instruction.
Names of the council’s members are closely held. But the Southern Poverty Law Center published a 2014 membership directory showing that Stephen K. Bannon — now chief White House strategist for President Trump — was a member and that Kellyanne Conway — now counselor to the president — served on the council’s executive committee.
That's two of the three people pulling Trump's strings.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
Perhaps Trumps next move is to go for some constitutional amendments.
What role did Bannon or Conway play in preparing the report?
Yerda
Veteran Member
I don't know. I can't see that it matters.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
The irony is posting the Constitution everywhere will only help to inform school children of how illegal this plan is.
I doubt this would pass, although it's interesting to ponder the implications.
I also wonder why they always have to make the schools into these political football fields. Why do the poor kids have to suffer just because adults have to play these political games?
If they want to force God into some public arena, let them try in some other part of the public realm. Like maybe the Department of Motor Vehicles. It would still be just as unconstitutional, but still, why don't they think of something like that rather than constantly making the schools into their battleground?
What I'm trying to get at: what reason would there be to expect this report to be used to shape actual public policy? You say that Bannon and Conway belong to this organization... well, is that enough reason to think that they either influenced the report or will be influenced by it?
Curious George
Veteran Member
I noted the same thing you did when I read the link. But I do think that it is troubling that people in power have these connections and therefore this report, though private, is indicative of there beliefs and wants to some degree. If you belonged to a planned parenthood group, I would think that you supported that groups goals to some degree and that they didn't stray greatly from your personal opinions. That said, I wouldn't assume you would create policy on these beliefs, but it would merit closer watch if I was concerned with that particular policy.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Something I'm noticing: People assume Conservative Christians read the First and interpret it as a separation of church and state. They do not. Rather, they twist things around, quote mine, and come out insisting the only limitations the First imposes on religion is that the state shall not infringe on their free practice thereof. (Much in a similar manner as to how Right-winged gun supporters have a habit of ignoring the "well regulated militia" part of the Second.) They believe America was established on Christian principles, that we should be governed by these principles, and yet, to the contrary of the expectations of some, though they read the 10 Commandments and Bill of Rights, they do not make the connection that the Bill of Rights does not mirror or have any similarities with the 10 Commandments, but yet they claim it does.
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
If religion is not allowed in schools, shouldn't atheism also not be allowed.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
While an "atheist agenda" should not be pursued in public schools, in reality it isn't happening and there is no atheist agenda. It's not like Christianity which seeks converts and tells followers to go out and preach. And it's not that religion isn't allowed, religion isn't allowed to be sponsored or promoted by schools or by teachers while teaching. You can pray and read your Bible all you want. You just can't expect others to uphold and follow your views, and cannot expect the school to teach or promote your religion.
Yerda
Veteran Member
It's reason enough to take it seriously I think.
I'd be quite surprised in the event the report is genuine and the membership claims are genuine (btw, the article also claims both of Devos's parents are listed as members) that they didn't participate in the plan.
I could be misfiring. What's your take?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Can you cite an instance where a public school advocated atheism?
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I wouldn't worry.
From the aritcle.....
A few reasons....
- Anyone can advocate for something....a report supposedly created for Trump doesn't mean he'll act upon it.
- Separation of church & state is pretty solid, withstanding many assaults upon it.
- The First Amendment
- We heathens can be pretty annoying if fundies try to push sky fairy mythology upon us.
- Fundies would never agree about which flavor of Xianity would be taught in school.
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You know I don't read. I just jump to conclusions and jerk my knee around.
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
Provide sources and links, perhaps?????????