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Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Meandflower, Jan 10, 2021.

  1. Wandering Monk

    Wandering Monk Well-Known Member

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    It bothers me that there aren't more ways to deal with situations than deadly force.
     
  2. Valjean

    Valjean Veteran Member
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    There are -- they just haven't been implemented.
    Correcting the causes of a problem isn't sexy, like confronting it with violence is. There's no vindictive thrill, and little a candidate can use to rile up voters.
     
  3. PruePhillip

    PruePhillip Well-Known Member

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    Why not just cut every police force in half and spend the money 'saved' on building gyms
    and amusement parks? I suggest the crime rate would go through the roof - it already is.
     
  4. ADigitalArtist

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    How about cut police budget and spend the money saved on health and human services, with things like more job counseling, mental Healthcare providers, child services, rehab centers and affordable housing plans?

    The mother of crime isn't less police. It's poverty. Lot of countries with far less police spending per capita with way less crime than we have.
     
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  5. Secret Chief

    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    You aren't, but I'm clearly missing a brain. Post deleted.
     
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  6. ADigitalArtist

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    No worries we've all been there.
     
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  7. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    Doing anything in such a simplistic fashion is hardly ever a good solution.
     
  8. Valjean

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    Nobody's suggesting that. Please pay attention, do some research, and understand what reforms are actually being proposed.
     
  9. PruePhillip

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    I am not American. But 'defund' to me means cutting back on police funding.
    Maybe police can just keep out of 'black' areas - not Indian, Pakistan, Nigerian
    etc black, but 'African American' Black.
     
  10. PruePhillip

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    True, sort of. Plenty of poor and honest people in this world. It amazes people in poor areas
    of India there can so much crime in America.
    I suggest with African Americans they take a good look at themselves. Lots of ethnic groups
    came to America as poor people and worked their way up - look at the Irish for instance, or
    the Jews or Chinese - they worked their buts off and took menial jobs on partial pay. Now they
    own America. No-one has been more hated than Jews, but they took the persecution in their
    stride.
    I would count the ethnic groups in America libraries -
    20% were white
    80% were Asian
    0% were African Americans.
    This suggests to me that in the future Asian Americans will own 80% of America's wealth -
    put crudely.
     
  11. ADigitalArtist

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    Wow, that's a really cringy take.
     
  12. Valjean

    Valjean Veteran Member
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    Understood. The stupid slogan is just begging to be misunderstood.

    It's another liberal semantic blunder. The slogan does not mean what it literally says.
    I suppose they expected the public to research their proposals before passing judgement, but people don't do that. That would take some intellectual effort, whereas going with one's immediate emotional impression is easy -- especially when it conforms to the literal meaning of the slogan.

    Republicans would never make that mistake. They have messaging down to a science.
     
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  13. PruePhillip

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    I noticed something striking in American national parks - almost no African Americans.
    Some liberal 'explained' this as 'racism.' It was a cheap, lazy shot - fact is there were
    plenty of blacks in the parks - Nigerian, Ethiopian, Indian, Pakistani, South African etc..
    No Afro Americans.
    I was intrigued. In some national monuments I did the sums - 1% of the tourists were
    African Americans. Didn't count non-AfroAmerican blacks but I suggest 5-10%. What
    gives? I suggest African Americans have their own culture as you see many of them
    at Universal Studio and Disney parks - which are expensive to enter. This culture, sadly,
    includes crime. Rap music makes this point.
     
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    In a way sir. Most people think of governments as political, God's Kingdom is a government. We have a King (Jesus) and a cabinet (the 144k)
     
  15. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    Well, I prefer that my politics be devoid of religion,
    which hasn't served me all that well.
     
  16. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium अहम् ब्रह्मास्मि
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    Conversely, I prefer my religion to be devoid of politics, and it's served me quite well.
     
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  17. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    This strikes me as detente.
    Has that ever happened on RF before?
     
  18. capumetu

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    Virtually everything has roots in religion. I know nothing of the country you live in, but very likely many of the laws are based in some kind of religious roots.
     
  19. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    Various religions have influenced everything here.
    But we've made efforts to separate them from governance.
     
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