james bond
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Quote mining.
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Religious Criticism Of Atheists. They're Too Selfish.
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Quote mining.
siti
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I'm not quote mining, I am quoting the conclusion of the article you based your OP on. I was trying to help - you obviously never read that far - you just took the first paragraph and ran with it because it fit your agenda, that's quote mining. I read the whole article and quoted a significant portion (in my first post) and the conclusion in my last post. You argued that Psychology Today was a trustworthy source - so I ask again - do you agree with the conclusion of the article you quote-mined or is it only a trustworthy source when it agrees with your asinine position?
james bond
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I can't make this stuff up, Nietzsche. Truth IS stranger than fiction.
I think some atheists here are brainwashed and think the atheism stuff is popular and okay, but it isn't. If the atheists here believe in determinism, then they are brainwashed. However, I know it's by their free will and their choice. It's just like choosing to believe in God or not. I think I've pointed out that we'll always be tested in this life.
Historically, atheism has led to Communism. Vladimir Lenin wrote, "A Marxist must be a materialist, i. e., an enemy of religion, but a dialectical materialist, i. e., one who treats the struggle against religion not in an abstract way, not on the basis of remote, purely theoretical, never varying preaching, but in a concrete way, on the basis of the class struggle which is going on in practice and is educating the masses more and better than anything else could."
Lenin, Vladimir Ilyich. The Attitude of the Workers' Party to Religion, 1909.
Friedrich Engels wrote of atheistic evolutionism and communism: "Just as Darwin discovered the law of development of organic nature, so Marx discovered law of development of human history."
Engels, Friedrich. "Karl Marx's Funeral", Marx-Engels Collected Works, vol. 24, p. 467.
The other chaos was with Darwin (whom atheists like to parade around as "science") and the Holocaust and black genocide. We still have it crop up in modern times.
"The Bell Curve sparks controversy
These anxieties are rooted in the social tensions that beset contemporary society. They were heightened by the recent renewal of assertions -- notably in The Bell Curve, Charles Murray and the late Richard J. Herrnstein's widely discussed book of 1994 -- that racial groups differ from each other in their innate mental capacities. Murray and Herrnstein reported that the principal difference lies between whites on the one side, and Latinos and, especially, blacks on the other. Blacks on average score 15 points lower than whites on IQ tests. Herrnstein and Murray concluded that therefore blacks as a group are less intelligent than whites. They held that genes place blacks, along with whites of comparable test performance, disproportionately in poverty, in prison, on the welfare rolls, and in the statistics of illegitimate births. They insisted that the high maternity rate of low-income groups is fostering "dysgenics," the increase of inadequate genes in the population."
Evolution: Darwin: In the Name of Darwin
james bond
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Selfishness is that which we won't be able to overcome. Thus, I try to use the good book to overcome what I can. I've even pointed out that sometimes being selfish is the right play although not the best play.
Yet, the atheist selfishness is something to watch out for. This is more behavioral than the judgmental immorality argument.
Let's look at one atheist's sig:
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
~ Epicurius (341-270 BC)"
Epicurus is the one who taught pleasure was good and pain was evil. He promoted atheism. To be fair, Epicurus was right about a good life includes sufficient food and good friendships. I think he said, "The best life is characterized by sufficient food, a comfortable dwelling, peaceful relationships, and good friends." I don't think he promoted gluttony. This is taught by Jesus. However, it's the latter that got him in trouble with the Lord. Epicurus also taught to not have fear of gods and death. He thought we shouldn't have any worry or fear of death if we have the good life. I would guess this is why Epicurus died a long, painful death.
You really are freakishly poorly educated.
Atheism doesn't lead to communism. Historically it's poverty, famine and general social unrest that leads to Communism.
As far as the Evolution thing there's no reason discussing it with you because you believe outright fabrications, conspiracy theories and half-truths regarding it.
Like I said, you are the last person who should be trying to speak about historical events. You know very little about any portion of world history, and what little you do know is hopeless skewed and poorly researched. There is a reason so many people respond to your threads. It's because we're gobsmacked someone could be so consistently terribly informed.
james bond
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Why is it you who can be the cynic and not I ha ha. I'm just cynical of atheists.
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Once you draw a hard and fast line against science (evolution) and against how society is organized you have to logically say that, for example, the Pope is anti-Christian because he accepts evolution and tell Christian socialist/communist believers that they are not real Christians. This leads inevitably to what we sung about in the 1960's "there's no one left but thee and me and I'm not sure of thee" (this was in a political context but applies to religion as well).
james bond
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No way. The stupidity is not believing atheism doesn't lead to Communism. You're already a Commie. Why are some people and illegals sneaking into Canada?
More atheists and liberals are for abortion, illicit drug use and other Hollywood values. You and atheists are wrong again. It's religious of me to point out the errors of atheism and hope few will find out before it's too late. This life isn't all that there is.
The selfies thing is not just selfish or narcissistic as I thought. There could be other valid non-selfish reasons. However, the one's who constantly update social media with selfies and end up accidentally killing themselves could be in the former group.
james bond
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Sorry, I think you're the one poorly educated.
Jesus was a Commie
Jesus told people to pay taxes to tyrannical authority (Cease).
Jesus told people to not store up any money or treasures.
Jesus told people to give everything away.
Jesus told that family ties are not important and to ignore them.
Jesus told that the proletariat (the poor) will rule the world and the bourgeoisie (rich) would gnash their teeth.
Jesus told that dying for his cause was glorious and everyone should try to martyr themselves.
Yep a commie.
Jesus told people to pay taxes to tyrannical authority (Cease).
Jesus told people to not store up any money or treasures.
Jesus told people to give everything away.
Jesus told that family ties are not important and to ignore them.
Jesus told that the proletariat (the poor) will rule the world and the bourgeoisie (rich) would gnash their teeth.
Jesus told that dying for his cause was glorious and everyone should try to martyr themselves.
Yep a commie.
Too few know the difference between communism as a general method of social organization and Marxism.Jesus was a Commie
Jesus told people to pay taxes to tyrannical authority (Cease).
Jesus told people to not store up any money or treasures.
Jesus told people to give everything away.
Jesus told that family ties are not important and to ignore them.
Jesus told that the proletariat (the poor) will rule the world and the bourgeoisie (rich) would gnash their teeth.
Jesus told that dying for his cause was glorious and everyone should try to martyr themselves.
Yep a commie.
DavidFirth
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What is truth?
I subscribe to a modified correspondence theory of truth. What do you subscribe to?
At least Epicurus never became so altruistic that he tortured people to get them to
convert to his beliefs. He left it to Xians to invent the Crusades & the auto da fe.
Now, for your enjoyment, a segment of an updated version of Candide.....
joe1776
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I wouldn't want my daughter marrying a devout Christian.
I can respect people even when I disagree with them. But I would puke if my daughter told me she was going to marry a devout Christian because I would be nauseated by the thought that my grandchildren would be robbed of their freewill choice by having their young minds manipulated just as their father's was.
I can respect people even when I disagree with them. But I would puke if my daughter told me she was going to marry a devout Christian because I would be nauseated by the thought that my grandchildren would be robbed of their freewill choice by having their young minds manipulated just as their father's was.
Indeed!Bro, I am a strongly religious person and this is my political compass result. I am the reddest ******* here:
All should know that you & I are the most opposite of foes in all of RF.
The threat of war between Rivalstan & Revoltistan would loom large
were it not for our selfish desire for peace & prosperity.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Thread claims Religious people think atheists are too selfish
OP demonstrates that religious people are unhappy when family members don't share their religious beliefs.
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OP demonstrates that religious people are unhappy when family members don't share their religious beliefs.
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