Religious Atheists?

[Fool]

In a couple of Dharmic religions, Buddhism and Hinduism, it's acceptable to be a follower of that religion and to identify as an atheist at the same time depending on the school of philosophy one follows, and doing so is generally accepted by followers of these religions (not that debate between the schools of philosophy isn't all that uncommon). We have followers of these religions who are atheists on this very forum.

My question is this: Is it possible in your religion to be a member of or follow your religion and identify as atheist? Why or why not?

i'm an athiest because i don't believe in something apart from self. so being a gnostic i am also an atheist. i do not believe. i know.


i practice monism and the Law of One; which is all as self.


being a person of the universe, the one, i'm a small aspect of it


revelation 12:12

 

[Secret Chief]

Is a person who sits in a church pleasuring themself an agnostic? Asking for a friend.

 

[stvdv]

No!

Because the whole of Christianity is based on Jesus being God

Also in Hinduism some declare "Jesus is God"

So, it comes all down to "how we define God"

Usually Atheism is defined as "Lack of belief in God(s)"
But this definition uses the Western/Christian idea/definition of God, I think
In Hinduism, Advaita and finally Enlightenment our first definition of God, might have changed during our spiritual growth

 

[Brian2]

Of course not. Neither are the religions mentioned in the OP. I'm not sure what point you're making here.

Buddhism is a human philosophy because it comes entirely from inside of a human.
Hinduism cannot be placed in history and so I see it as philosophy also.
Judaism and Christianity are based on the actions of God in history and so are not philosophies.

 

[Left Coast]

Buddhism is a human philosophy because it comes entirely from inside of a human.
Hinduism cannot be placed in history and so I see it as philosophy also.
Judaism and Christianity are based on the actions of God in history and so are not philosophies.

...in your opinion. I see all religions as coming "entirely from inside of a human."

And what do you mean that Hinduism "cannot be placed in history?"

Also I will remember the whole "Christianity is not a philosophy" thing the next time a Christian tells me that imposition of Christian ideas in government is not a separation of religion and state issue because Christianity is a philosophy.

 

[Spirit of Light]

In a couple of Dharmic religions, Buddhism and Hinduism, it's acceptable to be a follower of that religion and to identify as an atheist at the same time depending on the school of philosophy one follows, and doing so is generally accepted by followers of these religions (not that debate between the schools of philosophy isn't all that uncommon). We have followers of these religions who are atheists on this very forum.

My question is this: Is it possible in your religion to be a member of or follow your religion and identify as atheist? Why or why not?

Sufi islam is the ortodox path of Allah so in my understanding, no one would not be a muslim and atheists on the same time.
Atheists do not worship Allah as a God

 

[Brian2]

...in your opinion. I see all religions as coming "entirely from inside of a human."

And what do you mean that Hinduism "cannot be placed in history?"

Also I will remember the whole "Christianity is not a philosophy" thing the next time a Christian tells me that imposition of Christian ideas in government is not a separation of religion and state issue because Christianity is a philosophy.

Yes imo.
Hinduism existed in history but the various stories, people and events are hard to place in history.
Christianity is not a philosophy because it came from events in history and God's work and revelation in history.
However we can get philosophical ideas from Christianity, just as we get philosophical ideas from philosophy and other religions.
A Christian with his ideas about people and life etc has as much right to be in Government as a philosophy professor who brings his ideas to Government.

 

[Harel13]

It's wrong in Judaism to adhere to other religions or lack of religion, but you're still Jewish.

 

[Orbit]

Some days I'm an atheist; other days I feel quite Presbyterian.

 

[Left Coast]

Yes imo.
Hinduism existed in history but the various stories, people and events are hard to place in history.
Christianity is not a philosophy because it came from events in history and God's work and revelation in history.
However we can get philosophical ideas from Christianity, just as we get philosophical ideas from philosophy and other religions.
A Christian with his ideas about people and life etc has as much right to be in Government as a philosophy professor who brings his ideas to Government.

Your ideas of what makes something a religion or philosophy are quite...idiosyncratic.

I would also argue that many of the "stories, people and events" in the Bible are "hard to place in history."

Lastly, a Christian does have a right to participate in secular government, but not to impose her religious ideas on others. Though that's another topic.

 

[firedragon]

In a couple of Dharmic religions, Buddhism and Hinduism, it's acceptable to be a follower of that religion and to identify as an atheist at the same time depending on the school of philosophy one follows, and doing so is generally accepted by followers of these religions (not that debate between the schools of philosophy isn't all that uncommon). We have followers of these religions who are atheists on this very forum.

My question is this: Is it possible in your religion to be a member of or follow your religion and identify as atheist? Why or why not?

At the outset of this post I must say that I am a Muslim and it is an obvious conflict between theism and atheism. So the answer is no, and that is why.

Nevertheless, I do know there are some Buddhists who call themselves Buddhist but they are actually atheists with a philosophical idea about Buddhism. Yet, Buddhism, though many consider it a philosophy has a lot of divine aspects to the idea of Buddhism. It is in conflict openly. There is no reconciliation. Unless of course you modify it to suit the need.

The term Dharmic religions is way way way too wide to say no part of it tolerates what you said in the OP. So that's that.

 

[Windwalker]

Christianity is not a philosophy, it is the revelation and actions of God. No God means no Bible and no Judaism and no Christianity.

So you are saying nobody can be a follower of God, unless they have a Bible?

BTW, Christianity shapes and molds one's worldviews, how they look at and approach life through its teachings. That by definition, is a philosophy. What is Philosophy? | Department of Philosophy

Quite literally, the term "philosophy" means, "love of wisdom." In a broad sense, philosophy is an activity people undertake when they seek to understand fundamental truths about themselves, the world in which they live, and their relationships to the world and to each other.​

 

[robocop (actually)]

In a couple of Dharmic religions, Buddhism and Hinduism, it's acceptable to be a follower of that religion and to identify as an atheist at the same time depending on the school of philosophy one follows, and doing so is generally accepted by followers of these religions (not that debate between the schools of philosophy isn't all that uncommon). We have followers of these religions who are atheists on this very forum.

My question is this: Is it possible in your religion to be a member of or follow your religion and identify as atheist? Why or why not?

Raelians adhere to every religion as atheists. They believe that Aliens created us and all of our religions.

 

[nPeace]

No!

Because the whole of Christianity is based on Jesus being God

Without him being God the whole thing doesn't work

Also, the resurrection is central to Christianity - there can be no Christianity with no resurrection

And without God there can be no resurrection

Eddi. You believe God died? How is that possible? Where does one find that form of Christianity in scripture?

 

[Eddi]

Eddi. You believe God died? How is that possible? Where does one find that form of Christianity in scripture?

Yes

1 Peter 3:18
1 John 3:16

He did stop living for a short while:

He experienced death but came back from it

Also, John 10:17-18

 

[nPeace]

Part of the brain is atheist, a part is the theist. It is the duality of the brain. There are basic driving motives for every human: atheism and theism. The Christian, who is watching pornography, is an atheist because of pornography, and theist because he goes to Church.

The Bible says the Devil sins. The demons sin, but yet they believe in God. John 8:44 ; James 2:19
Sinning does not make one an Atheist.
The Christian who is sinning, believes, just like the Devil and the demons.

 

[questfortruth]

Sinning does not make one an Atheist

Sin is the door for any bad spirit, including the spirit of atheism.

The Miracle of Creation is the scientific explanation for any theist because knowledge of a person is defined as information, which has his God. The Atheists have a god - "nonexisting god" is his name. Thus, the atheists are sure, that they have a lack of faith.

 

[nPeace]

Yes

1 Peter 3:18
1 John 3:16

He did stop living for a short while:

He experienced death but came back from it

Also, John 10:17-18

So God died... to you.
You understand what dead means, right?
You understand that the scriptures say it was God who raised Christ from the dead, right? So God was not the one who died right?
People who are taught that Christ is God, and God is Christ, and accept that, do not accept what is said there in the scriptures.
Do you really believe that is the form of Christianity Christ supports? Or rather, is that the form of Christianity Jesus and his followers warned against?

 

[nPeace]

Sin is the door for any bad spirit, including the spirit of atheism.

Yes, true. Sin is a door to eternal death itself.

The Miracle of Creation is the scientific explanation for any theist because knowledge of a person is defined as information, which has his God. The Atheists have a god - "nonexisting god" is his name. Thus, the atheists are sure, that they have a lack of faith.

The Atheist has many gods, though they may be in denial, or even ignorant of that fact.

 

[Eddi]

So God died... to you.

No

The incarnation of God we know and love as Jesus stopped living for a short while, but his spirit remained alive in a disembodied state

His Earthly body stopped breathing, his earthly heart stopped beating - therefore his Earthly body was dead

And whilst all this happened God The Father and the Holy Spirit were still very much alive and active

And no, I don't think he truly died - as by definition death is final

However, I believe he experienced a kind of death