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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Policy, Jun 28, 2022.

  1. Policy

    Policy Well-Known Member
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    For all the people who say “if you can’t afford to have a kid don’t have sex”…Do you think sex should be a class privilege??
     
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  2. Shadow Wolf

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    What's religion got to do with it?
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    That is the sane thing to do, irrespective of the religion that one follows. We have this problem in India. The poor have more children than those who have money to care for them. So, my solution will be one child if one is not a tax payer. More permissible according to how much they pay to the government.

    Chief Ministers Laloo Prasad and Rabri Devi (Bihar - husband, wife) have 9. :)

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  4. KenS

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    There are rich people who can't afford to have children. And rich people who shouldn't have children.


    Billionaires with no kids to leave their fortunes to | lovemoney.com


    It's all in the mind and not class. :)
     
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    RayofLight Pronouns: they/them/their thon/thons/thonself

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    I almost died from starvation as a kid. Poverty played a big role. That's a very privileged statement.
     
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    You will need to explain this seemingly paradoxical statement sorry?

    I imagine this is almost trivially true, but I'm not sure it addresses the thread OP?


    I should rather they used it to help lift people out of poverty.

    Well the notion of class is in the mind, it cannot be otherwise. Just because an idea is abstract and not real, doesn't mean it can't have real consequences.
     
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  8. KenS

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    There are rich people who say "I can't have children because it will interrupt where I want to be, what I do, and I don't want to be burdened by raising a child. I can't have a child because of it diverting my goals"

    It is an afterthought and doesn't address the thread. After 3 marriages and the destruction of the children's psyche through divorces, you probably shouldn't have any more children.

    True... true... good thought - we agree! :)

    As shown above, class isn't the only issue. I was poor (in my early years) but it wasn't a factor in having children.
     
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    I don't think one should take sex for granted.
     
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    I do not know what you are trying to say, or how it relates.
     
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    It means, no matter if one are rich or poor sex is not someone one just get because one want it so one can't take it for granted
     
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    Are you just saying that sex is not available just because one wants to have sex? I don't think any one would argue with that.
     
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    No it can be in a relationship too
     
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    I was including relationships. Just because one is in a relationship does not mean that sex is available just because one wants it. One's partner or partners may not be in the mood.
     
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    @Policy

    Answer that question.
     
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    Whatever.
     
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    That is VERY different than being able to afford one.
     
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    As I said, I could not "afford" to have children but managed to birth three and we are alive and kicking.

    Maybe it is more about no desire than capacity or selfishness than affordability?
     
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    Again. My parents had 4. They could not afford it. And I went 2 weeks without food at one point. In some cases it is about whether you can afford kids and not do you desire kids
     
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  20. KenS

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    And yet, in Honduras where people experience much more lack, have beautiful loving homes and wouldn't trade their children for anything--even in their hardships.

    Why? What accounts for the difference?

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    And with all the food pantries and food stamps, how can one be without food in the US?
     
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