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Reasons for believing in the Bible as the literal word of God.

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YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Obviously I'm paraphrasing - but Moses does specifically say three days: Exodus 5:3





Common sense (as common as one can achieve in a society where slavery is the norm) is that you DO NOT give your slaves the chance to run off and/or get organized, and Moses was asking for both.

The specific reasons are irrelevant; no leader of a slaveowning society is going to honor such a request.
Thank you for your thoughts. Let's say that is true about a slaveowning society, although there was a pretty big fight in the U.S. As we know, the slaveowners did not want to set their slaves free. There was a battle. According to the Biblical account, miraculous events took place setting the Israelites free to worship. It wasn't easy on both sides but in the final events, Pharaoh changed his mind and went back on his word again and astounding events took place. The Israelites did not go back to Egypt and were in the wilderness for many years after their escape from bondage.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Really good point. If it was so unjust what happened with the plagues, the the mixed multitude would not have joined them. Brilliant!



Interesting. I had never considered that. I'd like to ponder before responding more. Thank you.
Yes, that IS a good point. Thanks for reminder. I can only guess these Egyptians figured out where they should be.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
If the evidence around them doesn't indicate there is a God, and a person needs and sincerely wants more, he can find it and God can reach him. Not everyone will see it, however.
Considering how little you " see "of the
Intro to remedial basic science concepts
that we try to teach you, we doubt sincerity
and that you will ever see.

Why would we believe youve Superior
Seeing Sense in anything?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You didn't correct.
I have corrected you countless times. Your denial does not change that fact.
Nah, none of them a rule violations. You're just preaching the faux-atheism bible right now. Proclaiming stuff, but all the details are wrong.
Don't be too sure. It can take a while for the moderators to react. I still will not claim that you have a false-Judaism.
It's too late for that. And you never do that for me.
It is never too late. And what do you mean by that last sentence? Perhaps you have unreasonable expectations. When someone makes some of the errors that you make it is obvious that you do not know enough to understand a correction. So I will demand that one learns the basics first. You will not see me correcting others on the translation of Hebrew to English since I know almost nothing of it. If there was some nuance that I was not getting I would not even try to deny it, but we have never discussed nuance here. At any rate I won't take a Strong's Concordance or other work and try to translate since I know that I do not have enough info.

Just as I would be out of my depths when it comes to Judaism, you are definitely out of your depths when it comes to science and evidence. You also appear to lack the ability to reason rationally. You definitely do not argue rationally. But the good news is that you can learn.
 

Subduction Zone

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Note the word "I." That is all that matters to you.
Please, I (oh noesss!! I said I, ooh I did it again. Ni! Ni! Ni!!) okay you appear to be purpose fully trying not to understand a simple concept because it shows you to be wrong. That happens almost every time that you mess up. So the accusations against you still stand and will never get better.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
I have corrected you countless times. Your denial does not change that fact.

those were not logical arguments.

Don't be too sure. It can take a while for the moderators to react. I still will not claim that you have a false-Judaism.

I'm sure. Your faux-atheism prevents attention to detail which undermines your arrogance.

It is never too late. And what do you mean by that last sentence? Perhaps you have unreasonable expectations. When someone makes some of the errors that you make it is obvious that you do not know enough to understand a correction. So I will demand that one learns the basics first. You will not see me correcting others on the translation of Hebrew to English since I know almost nothing of it. If there was some nuance that I was not getting I would not even try to deny it, but we have never discussed nuance here. At any rate I won't take a Strong's Concordance or other work and try to translate since I know that I do not have enough info.

Yes, it is too late to demand that I produce anything for you. I did that yesterday and you just flopped and flipped denied and lied, just like you always do. If you have something to say, then say it. I will choose to reply if it deserves a reply.

Just as I would be out of my depths when it comes to Judaism, you are definitely out of your depths when it comes to science and evidence. You also appear to lack the ability to reason rationally. You definitely do not argue rationally. But the good news is that you can learn.

Nope. I am really good with both science and evidence. That's why I defeated you yesterday and all you could say was... nuh-uh. and then you defeated yourself with the stupid bait and switch faux-atheism garbage. And your no-flood-evidence supports the bible. Let's see, God is not immoral. And Free-will isn't a contradiction. And God can easily be "outside" of time. I'm trying to think of any other stupid faux-atheist talking points. Oh.. right demanding evidence will never happen, as a direct conesequence of the law. So your lack of evidence is also proof of the bible. There's nothing left for ya'all.

Even if you want to whine about God not delivering your wishes cause Jesus said so is a fail. That argument is dead.

I asked you a question yesterday, you didn't answer. Why don't you join with other seniors who share your passion for science instead of inserting it here where it doesn't belong in religious debates? I sent you a link to your local university. It's supposed to be a great place. Why are you here debating with people who disagree with you and don't care about what you care about?

The answer will produce proof of your religious beliefs. And that's probably why you won't answer.
 

Subduction Zone

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those were not logical arguments.



I'm sure. Your faux-atheism prevents attention to detail which undermines your arrogance.



Yes, it is too late to demand that I produce anything for you. I did that yesterday and you just flopped and flipped denied and lied, just like you always do. If you have something to say, then say it. I will choose to reply if it deserves a reply.



Nope. I am really good with both science and evidence. That's why I defeated you yesterday and all you could say was... nuh-uh. and then you defeated yourself with the stupid bait and switch faux-atheism garbage. And your no-flood-evidence supports the bible. Let's see, God is not immoral. And Free-will isn't a contradiction. And God can easily be "outside" of time. I'm trying to think of any other stupid faux-atheist talking points. Oh.. right demanding evidence will never happen, as a direct conesequence of the law. So your lack of evidence is also proof of the bible. There's nothing left for ya'all.

Even if you want to whine about God not delivering your wishes cause Jesus said so is a fail. That argument is dead.

I asked you a question yesterday, you didn't answer. Why don't you join with other seniors who share your passion for science instead of inserting it here where it doesn't belong in religious debates? I sent you a link to your local university. It's supposed to be a great place. Why are you here debating with people who disagree with you and don't care about what you care about?

The answer will produce proof of your religious beliefs. And that's probably why you won't answer.
And just a long list of denial. No one can help you if denial i all that you have.

As to your claims about being "real good" with both science and evidence your own posts refute that claim. Or have you forgotten the claim of "your evidence'. That alone refutes you since scientific evidence does not belong to anyone.

What question did you ask yesterday? Was it a "have you quit beating your wife yet?" question? One has to be careful with "Yes/No" questions since they are quite often false dichotomies.
 
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