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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Jimmy, May 1, 2021.

  1. Jimmy

    Jimmy Well-Known Member

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    There’s more because there’s more religious people I’m sure the ratio is the same. They’re aware of what they’re doing they simply don’t like you and you don’t like them and they don’t care if you’re feelings get hurt unfortunately
     
  2. ChristineM

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    The statistics that are available indicate differently. For example there is a higher percentage of religious people in us prisons than non religious when compared to the demographic of the general population.

    Feeling may have a little to do with if but i am talking physical violence, terrorism, various atrosities, immoral behaviour
     
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  3. Jimmy

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    I think it’s more substance abuse problems and mental illness
     
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    Yeah sure someone may check a little box on some form that they’re Catholic but could care less about religion
     
  5. ChristineM

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    Jolly good

    So you think that religion produces more drug users and mental illness?

    I personally think its religious teaching. I will concentrate on abrahamic religions because those are what i know most about and comprise the the vast majority or religious people. L
    Let's talk bible. there is much violence condoned by god and excused because its condoned by god. This is taught to adherents from their first getting involved in religion.

    So there winds up being a big percentage subconsciously thinking to themselves,.. if god can do it then so can i and god us on my side because i believe in him.

    Fortunately the law is not so biassed
     
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  6. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Yeah they all sat that to excuse the statistics. There us however no evidence to support such a claim
     
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    Not in my experience, generally. But yes, I've met some who wore their anger on their sleeves. The toxic positivity ones don't know. They think they're so nice, lol. I remember a staff member who asked me what I wanted for a retirement function. I said very clearly, 'Nothing at all," Then she went ahead and planned her do. to this day she probably figures she was being nice.
     
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    Proselytizers do believe they're doing you a huge favour. Even though I'm a theist, emotionally I'm far closer to non-interfering atheists.
     
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    I much prefer your approach to that of a proselytizer
     
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    Thanx for the referral
     
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    Well you can pretty much read someone
     
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    What does Hitler have to do with anything?
     
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    Doesn't matter of count for anything when the good people stand by and do nothing while the bad people go about doing what it is that makes them bad. That does mean the good people aren't good people, but rather they are enablers, accessories and accomplices to the crimes of the bad ones.
     
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    I can vouch for that as a former toxic Christian who didn't see it this way but had cone to truly believe it was doing good.
     
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    Most of the times they are not standing by. their busy. Raising children working full-time jobs and maybe having a little free time to be a couch potato maybe they have hobbies and are trying to live an enjoyable life. Maybe they are in some little groups that try to make a difference but the bad thing still persist. They’re not law enforcement officials and a lot of times crimes are indoors where nobody can see them. It runs deeper than just chalking it up as good people standing by
     
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    And a lot of times it isn't even that much. It's standing up for someone being bullied. It's reporting things when you have knowledge of a crime or someone who committed one. And sometimes it isn't your life, but the lives of thousands and even millions when all these "good people" stand by, do very little, and let the worst our species has to offer waltz into power.
    The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. -Edmond Burke.
     
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    Probably 1 and 3. Christianity began to not make sense to me, so I drifted away. I drifted towards Hinduism and then full embraced it because it represents what I do believe.
     
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    Unfortunately standing up to A bully or reporting a crime isn’t gonna bring about world peace. Teaching the young unfortunately won’t do that either.
    I wish it would though
     
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    Reporting a crime does help to prevent a rapist from raping his next victim. It helps to prevent a shoplifter from pocketing goods as she pleases. It helps to find and charge those committing assaults. No, it won't bring world peace (that's rather a silly thing to bring up as that is a complex issue with many layers and I wasn't even going in that direction), but many perpetrators of crime go on unimpeded and uncaught simply because no one bothered to report it. Which means those who had knowledge but didn't report did allow a criminal to go forth and commit more crime.
     
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