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Featured Re: What use does an atheist have for deities?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by LuisDantas, May 24, 2019.

  1. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    How does this thread's subject matter relate to idolatry as you understand it?
     
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    I don't know actually. Maybe you are right.
     
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  3. Father Heathen

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    FFS...did you not even read the post you replied to?
     
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    I would welcome, as a challenge, for anyone to share a dream report, either their own or one offerred publicly by others that you think has no relationship to the symbolism found in religion or myths and I will be glad to see if I cannot demonstrate otherwise.

    I know a couple of website if you want to take me up on this challenge that I can refer you to for dream content.
     
  5. Father Heathen

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    First you say "The Gods are real, they are not symbols." but then "His god was just imagination.", so which is it?

    BTW, Lord Xargoltus is the god of false gods.
     
  6. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    Deities, for this atheist at least, really enhance my ability to swear!
     
  7. PureX

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    Why not?
    What does that have to do with anything? You don't have to be a Christian to pray. You don't even have to know what you're praying to: God, the universe, whatever. You could pray to the unknown just because it helps you to feel better. Lots of people do.
     
  8. Revoltingest

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    I find deities quite useful for exclamations....
    - "Mein Gott!"
    - "Bozhe moi! (sucky phonetic spelling, eh)"
    - "Jump'n Jesus!"
    - "Christ on a cracker! (the snack, not the southerner)"
    - "Jesus ******* Christ!"
    - "You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to Hell !!!" (useful for time travel)
     
  9. LuisDantas

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    That may well be, but generally speaking I feel that @sealchan is probably quite correct.

    Atheists have dreams that are as symbolic and as meaningful as anyone else's. We are just not quite as likely to interpret them in certain ways that are encouraged by some stances and doctrines.
     
  10. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    One has dreams based based on physical and/or mental experience. On the case of deities i dont see how someone who doesn't think in terms of supernatural would dream supernatural.
     
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    So, for me reality is the totality of experience, emotional, logical, and physical. The Gods exist both within and outside of physical reality (midgard/ our universe), but they act (if at all) only indirectly with us and what we percieve (emotion/logic).
     
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  12. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    I am not sure about how the neurological trends distribute, nor on how well they correlate with the situation regarding god-beliefs or even supernaturalism proper, but it is quite possible for someone who does not believe in supernatural entities to nevertheless dream of those.
     
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    On the other hand, fantasy and faith are not that far apart. As both are products of imagination and desire. And I trust that atheists are just as disposed to imagination and desire as anyone else, is.
     
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    Sorry, from my perspective, the deities are not real so belief in them is neither useful nor is of any use to anybody, be that person an Atheist or a Non-Atheist, please. Right, please?

    Regards
     
  15. ChristineM

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    Not the way i was taught psychology. A dream was considered the brain attempting to analyse, rationalise and compartmentalise recent experiences. One who does not consider deities would not have the mental impression of deities to dream about.

    Of course if that experience included interacting with a person who spoke about gods that could trigger such a dream
     
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    Dreams dont work that way, they need a grounding in reality or experience
     
  17. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    I don't think that I agree.

    Belief in deities can be a powerful motivator, at the very least. And since that is true for several competing, mutually exclusive conceptions of gods, it should be clear that this is true of unreal deities as well.
     
  18. ecco

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    Yes I did read your post. You stated that "Some forms of Satanism are atheistic".

    I questioned how a belief in a supernatural anti-god could be atheistic. I still question why you think a belief in a supernatural anti-god could be atheistic.

    Do you think that it matters that "Satan is a symbolic rather than literal figure"?
     
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    I beg to differ. I'm a big fan of fantasy science fiction. I have read and enjoyed many books from great writers like Heinlein. I have enjoyed movies like Avatar and Star Trek.

    In contrast, the Bible, other than being a source of information with which to confront Christians, is quite boring. Christian movies, like Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ, are nothing more than Christian propaganda.
     
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    I agree. The dreams of atheists are just as useless as the dreams of the religious.
     
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