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Rationality About Israel

Discussion in 'Middle Eastern Politics' started by Ellen Brown, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. Ellen Brown

    Ellen Brown Sorry, just trying to sort the NONSENSE
    Premium Member

    Mar 21, 2018
    I hope there is something out there that is smarter than me.
    There is not a lot of research behind what I am saying, but I'm old and have paid attention.

    In reading the biography of Einstein, this I did many years ago, it mentioned that Einstein and some other experts got involved in Zionism. Over the years, I was amazed to hear people say that the Zionists are the ones who insisted on a home state for the Jews, and that many Jews were not in favor of a Palestinian invasion.

    Stupid Evangelical Christians using their talent for talking through their Anuses, insisted that God gave them the land. Somehow they believe that by being loudly vocal and dramatic they are more convincing.

    However, a couple times I have heard Jewish scholars say that God took their right away. So, I don't actually know if the land is theirs or not. I've been to Israel, and to me the land is awful. I am amazed at what the Jews have done with it! I'd rather live here in Oregon.

    Some of the Israeli politics is ruthless and awful to me, though when you get in a war and lose your land to the victor, maybe the land is not yours any more? I'm still not understanding why most of Egypt is not learning Hebrew. Maybe Syria and Jordan too?

    Then, of course if you go digging around in the prophetic writings about the End Times, you see that when it all hits the fan, the Jews are in the land, and many/most of them hide in a crack in the ground, I think somewhere around the Dead Sea, until everything calms down. Read it for yourself.

    For me, "It is all a funny, funny riddle". Courtesy of John Denver.
  2. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
    Premium Member

    Apr 28, 2014
    Some ultra-orthodox believe that the true Israel can only be established when the Messiah comes. They're a tiny minority.

    As someone who was born a Jew, I cheered Israel on until the early 1970's when defense started turning into "greater Israel" with a claim to all the land that history and legend says was once Israel. Then with the current Israeli government and their apartheid attitude, I'm mostly of the "pox on both their houses" attitude since the governments and many of the people don't want to share the land but want to push the other side out at best.
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  3. Stanyon

    Stanyon RF's Ultra -Square

    Aug 1, 2017
    It has always amazed me how some seem to consider what is called the "holy land " to be the centre of the universe.
  4. Anthem

    Anthem Active Member

    Sep 17, 2018
    It's the centre of their universe. Like a mother is a baby's
  5. Hadar Judah

    Hadar Judah Active Member

    Sep 22, 2018
    Israeli people are not the biblical Jews/Israelites.

    “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” [Revelation 2:9]