Rahul Gandhi gets 2-years jail sentence for caste slur, now on bail.

[Aupmanyav]

The heir-apparent of Indian National Congress (grandson of Indira Gandhi and son of former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi) sentenced to 2-year jail for caste slur against Prime Minister Modi. The court gave him a month's bail to appeal to Gujarat High Court.

Highlights: After Court Conviction, Rahul Gandhi Back In Delhi

Congress leader Rahul Gandhi was found guilty and sentenced to two years in prison on Thursday in a 2019 criminal defamation case over his remarks about PM Modi's surname.

www.ndtv.com

Next day:

Rahul Gandhi looses membership of the Indian parliament according to the law which he did not allow to be amended - "A member sentenced for a period two years or above will immediately be disqualified for the membership of the Parliament and after serving the period of the sentence, will not be allowed to contest any election for a period of six years."
Article 102 (1)(e) of the Constitution of India read with Representation of the People ACT, 1951

 

[danieldemol]

The heir-apparent of Indian National Congress (grandson of Indira Gandhi and son of former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi) sentenced to 2-year jail for caste slur against Prime Minister Modi. The court gave him a month's bail to appeal to Gujarat High Court.

Highlights: After Court Conviction, Rahul Gandhi Back In Delhi

Congress leader Rahul Gandhi was found guilty and sentenced to two years in prison on Thursday in a 2019 criminal defamation case over his remarks about PM Modi's surname.

www.ndtv.com

Next day:

Rahul Gandhi looses membership of the Indian parliament according to the law which he did not allow to be amended - "A member sentenced for a period two years or above will immediately be disqualified for the membership of the Parliament and after serving the period of the sentence, will not be allowed to contest any election for a period of six years."
Article 102 (1)(e) of the Constitution of India read with Representation of the People ACT, 1951

What did Modi have to say on the Nehru surname?

 

[Aupmanyav]

What did Modi have to say on the Nehru surname?

What and why Modi or any one else will say anything about Nehru surname or his own surname. That is what we get from our family. Modi surname indicates a trader origin, even Muslims and Zoroastrians have this surname. In Gujarat, it may indicate an origin from a city Modhra. Nehru surname occurs among Kashmiri Brahmins and indicates that at one time, their ancestors may have lived near a canal (Nehr).

 

[Father Heathen]

The caste system is a disgusting embarrassment. It's bigotry based upon make believe.

 

[Nakosis]

The heir-apparent of Indian National Congress (grandson of Indira Gandhi and son of former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi) sentenced to 2-year jail for caste slur against Prime Minister Modi. The court gave him a month's bail to appeal to Gujarat High Court.

Highlights: After Court Conviction, Rahul Gandhi Back In Delhi

Congress leader Rahul Gandhi was found guilty and sentenced to two years in prison on Thursday in a 2019 criminal defamation case over his remarks about PM Modi's surname.

www.ndtv.com

Next day:

Rahul Gandhi looses membership of the Indian parliament according to the law which he did not allow to be amended - "A member sentenced for a period two years or above will immediately be disqualified for the membership of the Parliament and after serving the period of the sentence, will not be allowed to contest any election for a period of six years."
Article 102 (1)(e) of the Constitution of India read with Representation of the People ACT, 1951

Sounds like someone using their political power to cause people to fear/pay the consequences of speaking out against them.

 

[metis]

The caste system is a disgusting embarrassment. It's bigotry based upon make believe.

Gandhi considered it to be fully repulsive.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Sounds like someone using their political power to cause people to fear/pay the consequences of speaking out against them.

Under Indian Constitution, speaking out has limits, and the courts decide. So, the district court decided against Rahul Gandhi and gave him a month's time to appeal in the High Court, which is the next step. Now the High Court (i.e., the State Court) will hear the case and decide. In case, the decision still is against Rahul Gandhi, the High Court will allow Rahul Gandhi to appeal in the Indian Supreme Court. There, the case will finally be decided. People (not just politicians) need to be careful of what they speak out (just like we need to be careful about what we post in a forum).

But remember, the District Judge would have studied the case thoroughly and must have given his judgment after due consideration (it was an important case. It was Rahul Gandhi's second offense. He was warned earlier). I do not think High Court will find much reason to change the decision. But that is my view. Let us see what High Court decides. By that time, it will be time of the national election (Apirl 24). According to law, Rahul Gandhi needs a decision in his favor to contest the next election, as he is barred from contesting the election for six years from the date of the District Court decision.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Gandhi considered it to be fully repulsive.

A court case is decided by the judge and not Rahul Gandhi. He may think whatever he likes about it.

 

[Aupmanyav]

The caste system is a disgusting embarrassment. It's bigotry based upon make believe.

It is not, unless there is discrimination based on caste, for which we have strict laws. How does it matter if Rahul is a Ghandy or Narendra is a Modi? Or some one is a Planck or Einstein? We all generally have last names.

 

[metis]

A court case is decided by the judge and not Rahul Gandhi. He may think whatever he likes about it.

I was referring to Mohandas.

 

[Father Heathen]

It is not, unless there is discrimination based on caste, for which we have strict laws. How does it matter if Rahul is a Ghandy or Narendra is a Modi? Or some one is a Planck or Einstein? We all generally have last names.

No, it most certainly is. It's an oppressive and discriminatory system based on arbitrary nonsense. It's poo that needs to be taken to the loo, as they say.

 

[King Phenomenon]

The heir-apparent of Indian National Congress (grandson of Indira Gandhi and son of former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi) sentenced to 2-year jail for caste slur against Prime Minister Modi. The court gave him a month's bail to appeal to Gujarat High Court.

Highlights: After Court Conviction, Rahul Gandhi Back In Delhi

Congress leader Rahul Gandhi was found guilty and sentenced to two years in prison on Thursday in a 2019 criminal defamation case over his remarks about PM Modi's surname.

www.ndtv.com

Next day:

Rahul Gandhi looses membership of the Indian parliament according to the law which he did not allow to be amended - "A member sentenced for a period two years or above will immediately be disqualified for the membership of the Parliament and after serving the period of the sentence, will not be allowed to contest any election for a period of six years."
Article 102 (1)(e) of the Constitution of India read with Representation of the People ACT, 1951

2 years for name callin. Glad I don’t live there. Hopefully India gets better

 

[Aupmanyav]

I was referring to Mohandas.

Yeah, there should be no discrimination. Mohandas too used the surname. How many would know that he was Mohandas?

No, it most certainly is. It's an oppressive and discriminatory system based on arbitrary nonsense. It's poo that needs to be taken to the loo, as they say.

Well, surnames will not go away. They go away only on forum nicks. You mean to remove Biden, Putin, Sunak, or Macron? Just the first names?

 

[Aupmanyav]

2 years for name callin. Glad I don’t live there. Hopefully India gets better

Yeah, 2 years for repeated name callin even after being warned by Court. Foolishness, loose tongue, gets carried away by his own rhetoric.
Difficult to change the Constitution. Procedure in Article 368 in the Constitution of India.

"An amendment of the Constitution can be initiated only by the introduction of a Bill in either House of Parliament. The Bill must then be passed in each House by a majority of the total membership of that House and by a majority of not less than two-thirds of the members of that House present and voting. This is known as special majority. .. The Bill, passed by the required majority, is then presented to the President who shall give his/her assent to the Bill. If the amendment seeks to make any change in any of the provisions mentioned in the provision to article 368, it must be ratified by the Legislatures of not less than one-half of the States. Although there is no prescribed time limit for ratification, it must be completed before the amending Bill is presented to the President for his/her assent."

Amendment of the Constitution of India - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[danieldemol]

What and why Modi or any one else will say anything about Nehru surname or his own surname.

I don't know, it is what the OP article stated;

'AAP leader and Delhi minister Saurabh Bhardwaj hit out at the Centre over the conviction of Congress leader Rahul Gandhi in a defamation case, saying while the Congress leader's remark using the 'Modi' surname was wrong, it was unfair to single him out as Prime Minister Narendra Modi had also commented on the Nehru surname.'

 

[Lyndon]

India now has a fascist government, and so this is to be expected

 

[Aupmanyav]

'AAP leader and Delhi minister Saurabh Bhardwaj hit out at the Centre over the conviction of Congress leader Rahul Gandhi in a defamation case, saying while the Congress leader's remark using the 'Modi' surname was wrong, it was unfair to single him out as Prime Minister Narendra Modi had also commented on the Nehru surname.'

I think some Congress person has already done that. That would mean that the matter is sub-judice. If not, they should do it. Why are they hesitating? Let the Courts decide. As I said it is not an individual (Saurabh Bhardwaj), but the Courts which can decide this.

 

[Aupmanyav]

India now has a fascist government, and so this is to be expected

Well, we have free and fair elections. In the recent State election in Karnataka, Modi's party lost quite heavily and Congress (INC) has formed the government. Election Commissioners (we have three at any moment) are chosen by the Prime Minister, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and the leader of the opposition in Parliament.

We have a strong Supreme Court free from any government influence. Judges choose future judges. We know the line of succession of the Chief Justices of Indian Supreme Court till May 25, 2031. Nothing fishy there. No one can influence them. That will be a crime.

Once appointed, neither any Judge of the Supreme Court nor an Election Commissioner can be removed by the Government. Their position is safe-guarded by the Constitution. Indian Constitution has an excellent system of checks and balances.

Future Chief Justices of India: SC’s line of succession: Meet the future CJIs
"Upon the retirement of Justice JB Pardiwala on August 11, 2030, Viswanathan -- the 10th lawyer to be directly elevated to the top court as a judge - will become the CJI and remain in the post till May 25, 2031, if the line of succession is not disturbed*."
* That is a death of any of the future incumbent.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/2-supreme-court-judges-sworn-in-509256

If Modi has not transgressed law, why should you term him as a fascist? If he does, Supreme Court will stop him. What makes you say that India has a fascist government? Just because your views differ from the views of the Modi Government? Indian Government derives its authority from the people of India.

 

[Lyndon]

Muslims, Christians and Sikhs would disagree with your fascist Hindu government

 

[Aupmanyav]

July 7, 2023
Gujarat High Court has rejected Rahul Gandhi's appeal against his conviction.

'Conviction legal': Setback for Rahul in Modi surname case
"While dismissing the plea, Justice Hemant Prachchhak noted that Gandhi is already facing 10 cases across India, adding the order of the lower court was "just, proper and legal" in convicting the Congress leader.
The HC noted that there is no reasonable ground to stay the conviction."

Rahul's conviction 'just, proper and legal': Guj HC dismisses plea

The HC noted that there is no reasonable ground to stay the conviction.

www.rediff.com

Rahul Gandhi will now appeal to the Supreme Court of India.