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Radical Bible verses

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Fish-Hunter, May 21, 2008.

  1. Fish-Hunter

    Fish-Hunter Rejoice in the Lord!

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    I would like to discuss some of the radical bible verses in the Holy Bible. Please post your own Bible verses that are difficult and radical to receive and understand. For starters, if you do not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, you are calling God a liar.

    1 John 5:10:
    Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because he has not believed the testimony God has given about his Son.
     
  2. TurkeyOnRye

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    Hosea 13:16
    Samaria will be held guilty, For she has rebelled against her God. They will fall by the sword, Their little ones will be dashed in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open.

    Worthy of discussion, or is this just a disgusting passage? I'd say the latter.
     
  3. Ringer

    Ringer Jar of Clay

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    I was wrong. I figured I'd get a passage from Leviticus of Deuteronomy as the second post. Wasn't expecting Hosea.
     
  4. angellous_evangellous

    angellous_evangellous Pater Familias Staff Member Premium Member

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    You may want to check and see just who you're throwing stones at.

    Christ has a way of putting her body between the attacker and victim.

    Here's some food for thought:

    John 8:6-8 This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. 7 And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her." 8 And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground.

    ESV John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh; I judge no one.
     
  5. angellous_evangellous

    angellous_evangellous Pater Familias Staff Member Premium Member

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    Here comes the fool, now we must be serious.
     
  6. Fish-Hunter

    Fish-Hunter Rejoice in the Lord!

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    hey...this is fun. :slap:

    All this is evidence that God's judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering. God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power on the day he comes to be glorified in his holy people and to be marveled at among all those who have believed. This includes you, because you believed our testimony to you. - 2 Thes 1
     
  7. angellous_evangellous

    angellous_evangellous Pater Familias Staff Member Premium Member

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  8. Fish-Hunter

    Fish-Hunter Rejoice in the Lord!

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    Hey...where's the verse about eating babies?
     
  9. angellous_evangellous

    angellous_evangellous Pater Familias Staff Member Premium Member

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    Yes, the terrible nature of God must be addressed by the Christian.

    http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...040-christian-responsibility-beg-mercy-7.html
     
  10. angellous_evangellous

    angellous_evangellous Pater Familias Staff Member Premium Member

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  11. Fish-Hunter

    Fish-Hunter Rejoice in the Lord!

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    Are you saying all that God does is not holy and right?

    Ezekiel 5

    1 "Now, son of man, take a sharp sword and use it as a barber's razor to shave your head and your beard. Then take a set of scales and divide up the hair. 2 When the days of your siege come to an end, burn a third of the hair with fire inside the city. Take a third and strike it with the sword all around the city. And scatter a third to the wind. For I will pursue them with drawn sword. 3 But take a few strands of hair and tuck them away in the folds of your garment. 4 Again, take a few of these and throw them into the fire and burn them up. A fire will spread from there to the whole house of Israel.

    5 "This is what the Sovereign LORD says: This is Jerusalem, which I have set in the center of the nations, with countries all around her. 6 Yet in her wickedness she has rebelled against my laws and decrees more than the nations and countries around her. She has rejected my laws and has not followed my decrees.

    7 "Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: You have been more unruly than the nations around you and have not followed my decrees or kept my laws. You have not even [a] conformed to the standards of the nations around you.

    8 "Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I myself am against you, Jerusalem, and I will inflict punishment on you in the sight of the nations. 9 Because of all your detestable idols, I will do to you what I have never done before and will never do again. 10 Therefore in your midst fathers will eat their children, and children will eat their fathers. I will inflict punishment on you and will scatter all your survivors to the winds. 11 Therefore as surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, because you have defiled my sanctuary with all your vile images and detestable practices, I myself will withdraw my favor; I will not look on you with pity or spare you. 12 A third of your people will die of the plague or perish by famine inside you; a third will fall by the sword outside your walls; and a third I will scatter to the winds and pursue with drawn sword.

    13 "Then my anger will cease and my wrath against them will subside, and I will be avenged. And when I have spent my wrath upon them, they will know that I the LORD have spoken in my zeal. 14 "I will make you a ruin and a reproach among the nations around you, in the sight of all who pass by. 15 You will be a reproach and a taunt, a warning and an object of horror to the nations around you when I inflict punishment on you in anger and in wrath and with stinging rebuke. I the LORD have spoken. 16 When I shoot at you with my deadly and destructive arrows of famine, I will shoot to destroy you. I will bring more and more famine upon you and cut off your supply of food. 17 I will send famine and wild beasts against you, and they will leave you childless. Plague and bloodshed will sweep through you, and I will bring the sword against you. I the LORD have spoken."
     
  12. angellous_evangellous

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  13. Fish-Hunter

    Fish-Hunter Rejoice in the Lord!

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    I'm just trying to understand your postings.

    Deuteronomy 28 - Curses for Disobedience

    15 However, if you do not obey the LORD your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:
    16 You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country.
    17 Your basket and your kneading trough will be cursed.
    18 The fruit of your womb will be cursed, and the crops of your land, and the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.
    19 You will be cursed when you come in and cursed when you go out.
    20 The LORD will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him. [a] 21 The LORD will plague you with diseases until he has destroyed you from the land you are entering to possess. 22 The LORD will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, with blight and mildew, which will plague you until you perish. 23 The sky over your head will be bronze, the ground beneath you iron. 24 The LORD will turn the rain of your country into dust and powder; it will come down from the skies until you are destroyed.
    25 The LORD will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You will come at them from one direction but flee from them in seven, and you will become a thing of horror to all the kingdoms on earth. 26 Your carcasses will be food for all the birds of the air and the beasts of the earth, and there will be no one to frighten them away. 27 The LORD will afflict you with the boils of Egypt and with tumors, festering sores and the itch, from which you cannot be cured. 28 The LORD will afflict you with madness, blindness and confusion of mind. 29 At midday you will grope about like a blind man in the dark. You will be unsuccessful in everything you do; day after day you will be oppressed and robbed, with no one to rescue you.
    30 You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and ravish her. You will build a house, but you will not live in it. You will plant a vineyard, but you will not even begin to enjoy its fruit. 31 Your ox will be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will eat none of it. Your donkey will be forcibly taken from you and will not be returned. Your sheep will be given to your enemies, and no one will rescue them. 32 Your sons and daughters will be given to another nation, and you will wear out your eyes watching for them day after day, powerless to lift a hand. 33 A people that you do not know will eat what your land and labor produce, and you will have nothing but cruel oppression all your days. 34 The sights you see will drive you mad. 35 The LORD will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head.
    36 The LORD will drive you and the king you set over you to a nation unknown to you or your fathers. There you will worship other gods, gods of wood and stone. 37 You will become a thing of horror and an object of scorn and ridicule to all the nations where the LORD will drive you.
    38 You will sow much seed in the field but you will harvest little, because locusts will devour it. 39 You will plant vineyards and cultivate them but you will not drink the wine or gather the grapes, because worms will eat them. 40 You will have olive trees throughout your country but you will not use the oil, because the olives will drop off. 41 You will have sons and daughters but you will not keep them, because they will go into captivity. 42 Swarms of locusts will take over all your trees and the crops of your land.
    43 The alien who lives among you will rise above you higher and higher, but you will sink lower and lower. 44 He will lend to you, but you will not lend to him. He will be the head, but you will be the tail.
    45 All these curses will come upon you. They will pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the LORD your God and observe the commands and decrees he gave you. 46 They will be a sign and a wonder to you and your descendants forever. 47 Because you did not serve the LORD your God joyfully and gladly in the time of prosperity, 48 therefore in hunger and thirst, in nakedness and dire poverty, you will serve the enemies the LORD sends against you. He will put an iron yoke on your neck until he has destroyed you.
    49 The LORD will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young. 51 They will devour the young of your livestock and the crops of your land until you are destroyed. They will leave you no grain, new wine or oil, nor any calves of your herds or lambs of your flocks until you are ruined. 52 They will lay siege to all the cities throughout your land until the high fortified walls in which you trust fall down. They will besiege all the cities throughout the land the LORD your God is giving you.
    53 Because of the suffering that your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you. 54 Even the most gentle and sensitive man among you will have no compassion on his own brother or the wife he loves or his surviving children, 55 and he will not give to one of them any of the flesh of his children that he is eating. It will be all he has left because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of all your cities. 56 The most gentle and sensitive woman among you—so sensitive and gentle that she would not venture to touch the ground with the sole of her foot—will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter 57 the afterbirth from her womb and the children she bears. For she intends to eat them secretly during the siege and in the distress that your enemy will inflict on you in your cities.
    58 If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are written in this book, and do not revere this glorious and awesome name—the LORD your God- 59 the LORD will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses. 60 He will bring upon you all the diseases of Egypt that you dreaded, and they will cling to you. 61 The LORD will also bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not recorded in this Book of the Law, until you are destroyed. 62 You who were as numerous as the stars in the sky will be left but few in number, because you did not obey the LORD your God. 63 Just as it pleased the LORD to make you prosper and increase in number, so it will please him to ruin and destroy you. You will be uprooted from the land you are entering to possess. 64 Then the LORD will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your fathers have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the LORD will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, "If only it were evening!" and in the evening, "If only it were morning!"-because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The LORD will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.
     
  14. Super Universe

    Super Universe Defender of God

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    You know, I've talked to many people of many different faith's and many athiests over the years but I never once met a person who did not believe God. The bible wasn't written by God. It was written by ignorant humans who didn't understand much of the world they lived in.


    One day you just might start to think for yourself. Maybe then you'll notice something, revelation has never come to one who was a leading member of the religion of the time. Not Abraham, not Moses, not Christ, not Mohammad, nor Buddha. New revelation came from them but, of course, if that were to happen today you wouldn't accept it. You're too stubborn, kind of reminds me of a group of people who once chose the golden calf over God, then when He sent His Son they slammed the door in his face too.
     
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  15. Fish-Hunter

    Fish-Hunter Rejoice in the Lord!

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    LOL!...I'm sorry but you really made me laugh! So, how's humanity doing? Are we making much progress? How would you know about the golden calf without the Holy Bible?

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  16. angellous_evangellous

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    Don't try to hard - we wouldn't want you to hurt yourself.:no:
     
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  18. angellous_evangellous

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    :biglaugh:

    He's cute, but can he cut and paste from websites?
     
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  19. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    There's a movie... :)

    Back to radical Bible verses, this passage from Chapter 1 of 1 Timothy left me scratching my head:

    I'm not sure if "handed over to Satan" is a euphemism for "killed". :sarcastic
     
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    If meeting online counts as meeting, then you've met at least one: me.
     
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