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Racism & Freedom: The Atheist Bible

Discussion in 'Music' started by Secret Chief, Mar 3, 2021.

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  1. Brahms

    100.0%
  2. Penderecki

    16.7%
  3. Ligeti

    22.2%
  4. Stravinsky

    100.0%
  5. John Adams

    50.0%
  6. Glass

    77.8%
  7. Scriabin

    38.9%
  8. Stockhausen

    55.6%
  9. Hildegard von Bingen

    50.0%
  10. Shostakovich

    88.9%
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  1. Secret Chief

    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    I promise this sequel thread is the last in a series of two. It's just that the Gods Sex Fascist Evolution Scandal thread showed that quite a lot of the composer's names were known to the good denizens of this parish (unless you were all fibbing of course), so I just wanted to do a follow up with a few more names. As I say, there'll be no more such threads, my ADD has kicked in now; I could hardly be bothered to come up with the clickbait title.
    As before, just tick the names you've heard of, doesn't matter if you've heard any of their music (knowingly anyway - if you've seen Shutter Island you've heard the music of Penderecki frinstance).
    Cheers!
     
  2. exchemist

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    Ligeti? Who he?
     
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    I know absolutely none of those composers!
     
  4. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Damn, and i as just in the mood for a good racism argument...

    Last one i got them all, this one only about half, but I don't have my thinking cap on today.
     
  5. exchemist

    exchemist Veteran Member

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    P.S How about Pierre de la Rue, Heinrich Isaac and Jacob Obrecht?
     
  6. Secret Chief

    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    I bet you've seen the film 2001?

     
  7. Secret Chief

    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    That's a no, a no and a no. :)
     
  8. exchemist

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    Aha! I had no idea.
     
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    Ha! Gotcha. I've sung all three, when I was in The Hague. They are from the Flemish school of Renaissance polyphony.

    Isaac wrote a 6 part Agnus Dei which was fiendishly hard to sing, without it turning into just..... sound:




    Very hard not to get lost in all this, at times. It used to give me a headache: probably it was a bridge too far really. But a lot of this stuff is marvellous, and incredibly sophisticated, considering it was written around 1500.
     
  10. Secret Chief

    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    I'm so sorry. Perhaps you could assert your position on a particular topic and I could take a diametrically opposed one?
     
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    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    Exactly!
     
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    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    I suspected they were at the Hildegard end of things. Thanks for the heads up.
     
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    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    Till about 5 years ago I would have struggled to get much more than Beethoven, Bach and Mozart. ;)
     
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    She was 400 years earlier, in the era of plainchant, before polyphony had been developed.

    But if you want a flavour of Renaissance polyphony you could do worse than listen to Josquin des Prez's Ave Maria, which we also sang and which I love (very clever video, too, to help you follow the music):

     
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    One of my favourite pieces of music
     
  16. Secret Chief

    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    Ah. Baroque is about as far as I go back generally in my listening.
     
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    I was the same (Bach being my favourite), until by chance I got into this little a cappella choir that a Japanese singing teacher was starting in The Hague. It was a whole new world, and in fact very rewarding indeed, for a choral singer. But very taxing.
     
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    beenherebeforeagain Rogue Animist
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    wasn't aware that John Adams did any composing. But didn't he start decomposing in 1804 or thereabouts?

    Didn't remember anything about Hildegard of Bingen being a composer...I read quite a bit by and about her for a project once, but I apparently don't recall much of it now...
     
  19. Secret Chief

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    Haha yes, the name is just too common. Even just in music there's two:

    John (Luther) Adams



    and

    John (Coolidge) Adams



    I think she might be called a polymath?

    Hildegard Von Bingen Facts | Hildegard Remarkable Contributions
     
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    my familiarity with her stemmed from her mystical experiences and contributions to environmental philosophy. It's been at least 35 years since I did the research/thought much more about her and her works...
     
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