Quote on quote After the Virus

[Unveiled Artist]

How many of you will practice virus prevention after the news, scientist, etc say that the deaths are lessening and everything is now open?

Will we stick to the new normal or go back to habits (no masks, no social distancing, etc) as if it never happened?

Since viruses don't go away; it may take years before any agreed on cure to take place. How much do you depend on other sources to tell you what and when you need to do to take care of yourself and others in regards to virus prevention specifically?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

One can rely on science or agenda-driven morons.

 

[Spirit of Light]

How many of you will practice virus prevention after the news, scientist, etc say that the deaths are lessening and everything is now open?

Will we stick to the new normal or go back to habits (no masks, no social distancing, etc) as if it never happened?

Since viruses don't go away; it may take years before any agreed on cure to take place. How much do you depend on other sources to tell you when you do or do not need to do to take care of yourself and others in regards to virus prevention specifically?

Personally i will wear a face mask for a long time after they say it is "safe" to go back to the old normal.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

One can rely on science or agenda-driven morons.

Insults aside, would you still do virus prevention after the Truth of science says you're no longer in danger of catching and giving others the virus?

 

[Polymath257]

How many of you will practice virus prevention after the news, scientist, etc say that the deaths are lessening and everything is now open?

Will we stick to the new normal or go back to habits (no masks, no social distancing, etc) as if it never happened?

Since viruses don't go away; it may take years before any agreed on cure to take place. How much do you depend on other sources to tell you when you do or do not need to do to take care of yourself and others in regards to virus prevention specifically?

Is it the epidemiologists who are saying it is safe? Or is it the politicians?

For the epidemiologists to say it is safe, the incidence of the virus has to be low enough that outbreaks are localized and can be easily dealt with by contact tracing and quarantine. When it gets to that level, I will 'go back to normal'. Assuming, of course, that is the consensus as it relates to people like me who have asthma.

But if it is just the politicians who say it is safe and the epidemiologists are saying it is too soon, then I won't.

The 'sources' supposedly have access to the actual data (unless, of course, the politicians limit that access--which will make me question anything said) and, being the ones that study it for a living, understand the implications of that data.

I certainly don't trust my own ability to find appropriate data with which to do my own mathematical models. And anyone who isn't an epidemiologist that thinks they can is an idiot.

I want a data driven decision, not a politics driven one.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Personally i will wear a face mask for a long time after they say it is "safe" to go back to the old normal.

More of an internal feeling of what makes sense for you and your safety?

 

[sun rise]

When we have a vaccine and effective treatment besides and the case load is low, I'll be prepared to go back to mostly normal.

But I suspect I'll be wearing masks during flu season in high-risk locations in the future no matter what.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Is it the epidemiologists who are saying it is safe? Or is it the politicians?

For the epidemiologists to say it is safe, the incidence of the virus has to be low enough that outbreaks are localized and can be easily dealt with by contact tracing and quarantine. When it gets to that level, I will 'go back to normal'. Assuming, of course, that is the consensus as it relates to people like me who have asthma.

But if it is just the politicians who say it is safe and the epidemiologists are saying it is too soon, then I won't.

The 'sources' supposedly have access to the actual data (unless, of course, the politicians limit that access--which will make me question anything said) and, being the ones that study it for a living, understand the implications of that data.

I certainly don't trust my own ability to find appropriate data with which to do my own mathematical models. And anyone who isn't an epidemiologist that thinks they can is an idiot.

I want a data driven decision, not a politics driven one.

Do you still feel you're at somewhat of a risk despite what science says? (Assuming that there is a solid pattern of success from multiple sources)

 

[Spirit of Light]

More of an internal feeling of what makes sense for you and your safety?

Yes, better to be safe then get sick

 

[Polymath257]

Do you still feel you're at somewhat of a risk despite what science says? (Assuming that there is a solid pattern of success from multiple sources)

Risk is a fact of life. But, I take precautions when, for example, there is an outbreak of West Nile Virus (which comes out locally every so often) and try to avoid times when mosquitoes are out.

In terms of COVID, I would be interested in the global status as well as the local (global has a tendency to become local) and would not reduce precautions until both are down significantly.

But having the specialists agree that it is safe is enough for me.

 

[Polymath257]

I'd also be listening to the experts when they say another outbreak is happening and to be careful about it. I don't assume that 'back to normal' means there won't be times when precautions will be required again.

Remember, humans lived for centuries with many different diseases that were epidemic or even pandemic in nature. Places would lock down when the risk went up and open up again when it went down.

I suspect that this will be the future for this virus: sort of like how smallpox was not that long ago.

But note: smallpox is not a problem any longer.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

Is it the epidemiologists who are saying it is safe? Or is it the politicians?

For the epidemiologists to say it is safe, the incidence of the virus has to be low enough that outbreaks are localized and can be easily dealt with by contact tracing and quarantine. When it gets to that level, I will 'go back to normal'. Assuming, of course, that is the consensus as it relates to people like me who have asthma.

But if it is just the politicians who say it is safe and the epidemiologists are saying it is too soon, then I won't.

The 'sources' supposedly have access to the actual data (unless, of course, the politicians limit that access--which will make me question anything said) and, being the ones that study it for a living, understand the implications of that data.

I certainly don't trust my own ability to find appropriate data with which to do my own mathematical models. And anyone who isn't an epidemiologist that thinks they can is an idiot.

I want a data driven decision, not a politics driven one.

I've always been a compulsive hand washer and hand sanitizer user. People used to think I was weird for that...until now.

 

[Polymath257]

I've always been a compulsive hand washer and hand sanitizer user. People used to think I was weird for that...until now.

My ex-wife had pretty bad OCD. She made a comment that everyone knows how she feels now.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

My ex-wife had pretty bad OCD. She made a comment that everyone knows how she feels now.

I guess the difference is that OCD "germaphobia" is more rational now than before. But, I've always been pretty conscious of the presence of germs--I just don't like getting sick with anything if I can avoid it. Although I do think that there is certainly a point even now when the fear goes too far.

 

[Valjean]

How many of you will practice virus prevention after the news, scientist, etc say that the deaths are lessening and everything is now open?

The news? For notification of 'what's open' I expect local news would be pretty accurate. For actual medical information or advice, though, I'd be skeptical, and look for multiple, independent sources for verification. There's too much politicized propaganda out there, too much slipshod investigation and reporting, and too many special interests trying to manipulate public opinion.

Scientists, on the other hand, would have nothing to say about what's open, but I'd trust their medical and epidemiological facts more than I would politicians'. That said, I'd still be somewhat skeptical, inasmuch as news is still politically manipulated, and is still usually filtered through privately owned agencies with their own biases,

Will we stick to the new normal or go back to habits (no masks, no social distancing, etc) as if it never happened?

As always, I''d tailor my behavior to the current situation.

Since viruses don't go away; it may take years before any agreed on cure to take place. How much do you depend on other sources to tell you what and when you need to do to take care of yourself and others in regards to virus prevention specifically?

Viruses do go away or become localized. Disease outbreaks surge and fade.

Remember the first Coronavirus epidemic: SARS CoV-1? No cases have been reported since 2004.
Then there was the 2nd Coronavirus epidemic, Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, caused by MERS CoV. It's still out there, but is currently regional and fairly rare.
I didn't alter my usual behavior for either of these outbreaks.

 

[shunyadragon]

How many of you will practice virus prevention after the news, scientist, etc say that the deaths are lessening and everything is now open?

Will we stick to the new normal or go back to habits (no masks, no social distancing, etc) as if it never happened?

Since viruses don't go away; it may take years before any agreed on cure to take place. How much do you depend on other sources to tell you what and when you need to do to take care of yourself and others in regards to virus prevention specifically?

Generalization that is unfounded concerning 'viruses'. The 2003 SARS came and went away. Many zoonotic viruses are often cyclic and return every year after migrating from animal host to animal (us) host. Some viruses hang around in the in the host population in various levels of severity popping up from time to time around the world like the bubonic plague, and yes it is still around in less severe forms.

It sounds like you are proposing the Conservative solution of eugenics to deal with the pandemic.

To a great extent the COVID-19 remains an unknown commodity in terms of the course of the relationship between the virus and host us.

As I predicted there was a June surge, and I predicted a grueling slow recovery.

Other problem is the hope of a magic bullet solution of vaccines is may not be the solution. Testing for anti-bodies has shown a rapid decline of anti-bodies after a high recovering from the infection and some cases where people were infected twice.The side effects after recovering have been common and sometimes severe.

 

[Nakosis]

How many of you will practice virus prevention after the news, scientist, etc say that the deaths are lessening and everything is now open?

Will we stick to the new normal or go back to habits (no masks, no social distancing, etc) as if it never happened?

Since viruses don't go away; it may take years before any agreed on cure to take place. How much do you depend on other sources to tell you what and when you need to do to take care of yourself and others in regards to virus prevention specifically?

I think we'll have to keep it up until we have a vaccine and possibly a cure.

It may be inconvenient to wear a mask but it's also inconvenient having to wipe your ***. You got to do what you got to do..

 

[Valjean]

I think we'll have to keep it up until we have a vaccine and possibly a cure.

It may be inconvenient to wear a mask but it's also inconvenient having to wipe your ***. You got to do what you got to do..

I don't see people railing against having to wear pants or use seat belts. What's the difference?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

How many of you will practice virus prevention after the news, scientist, etc say that the deaths are lessening and everything is now open?

Will we stick to the new normal or go back to habits (no masks, no social distancing, etc) as if it never happened?

Since viruses don't go away; it may take years before any agreed on cure to take place. How much do you depend on other sources to tell you what and when you need to do to take care of yourself and others in regards to virus prevention specifically?

I practice virus protection all of the time, no exceptions, even though my nation is opening up. It's the only way we will be able to stay open. If you don't do it, you're a freakin' idiot!

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I'd also be listening to the experts when they say another outbreak is happening and to be careful about it. I don't assume that 'back to normal' means there won't be times when precautions will be required again.

Remember, humans lived for centuries with many different diseases that were epidemic or even pandemic in nature. Places would lock down when the risk went up and open up again when it went down.

I suspect that this will be the future for this virus: sort of like how smallpox was not that long ago.

But note: smallpox is not a problem any longer.

Good way to see it