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Questions for Muslims

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
There is only 1, not 3, only 1.
Right one who is not the second person of the trinity, and definitely not the third person of the trinity, and the third person is neither the second person or the first person, the second is most definitely not the first or third person of the trinity, each one has a separate will, and only the Father is all knowing, but er yeah they're ONE :/

But anyway, is this One the same one as the OT?
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Right one who is not the second person of the trinity, and definitely not the third person of the trinity, and the third person is neither the second person or the first person, the second is most definitely not the first or third person of the trinity, each one has a separate will, and only the Father is all knowing, but er yeah they're ONE :/

But anyway, is this One the same one as the OT?


In what you said here, you answered your own question. About how Jesus is the Almighty God.
Now that is amazing, how people such as you answer your own questions, without even knowing it.

Go back read what you said again, then think how that would work with Jesus the Almighty God.

I can read what you said and see how that would work with Jesus is God.

Look you said that people have had NDEs.Ok
Then you said how people spirit would float out of their body.
Their body is still laying on the bed, but the spirit came out of the body.
The same with Jesus, in side of Jesus body is God. When the body of Jesus was laid down in the tomb, the spirit of God came out of the body of Jesus.

You see God being in side of Jesus, this is how Jesus is God. The body of Jesus died, but God being inside of Jesus did not die, Spirit of God came out.

When the body of Jesus died, The Spirit of God came out of the body of Jesus.

The same with those people who had a NDEs, their body laying on the bed and their spirit came out of their body.

This is what happen to Jesus, Jesus body laying in the tomb, and the Spirit of God came out of the body of Jesus.

You see the Spirit inside of Jesus is God Himself.
As long as the Spirit of God was inside of Jesus. This is how Jesus is the Almighty God.and Jesus is still the Almighty God.
 
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Pastek

Sunni muslim
Are you freaking kidding me, how can you be a Muslim and not know what the Q'uran say.and you ask me to give the Verses.

Now that's amazing.

Just to let you know, I do have q'uran and know Q'uran say

So let's talk about those verses. That's why I'm asking you about them because it seems we don't have the same understanding.
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
Question: Why did Allah command Muhammad to use violence to spread Islam’s rule? “Why couldn’t Allah have instructed Muhammad to continue to be peaceable, as God commanded Christians?”

Islam Hates You

It seems that you can't put verses in context or I would say you act like you don't know.

In the Old or New Testament by the way it says the same.
Read the Book of Revelation and you'll know what God thinks about the unbelievers.
 

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
In what you said here, you answered your own question. About how Jesus is the Almighty God.
Now that is amazing, how people such as you answer your own questions, without even knowing it.

Go back read what you said again, then think how that would work with Jesus the Almighty God.

I can read what you said and see how that would work with Jesus is God.

Look you said that people have had NDEs.Ok
Then you said how people spirit would float out of their body.
Their body is still laying on the bed, but the spirit came out of the body.
The same with Jesus, in side of Jesus body is God. When the body of Jesus was laid down in the tomb, the spirit of God came out of the body of Jesus.

You see God being in side of Jesus, this is how Jesus is God. The body of Jesus died, but God being inside of Jesus did not die, Spirit of God came out.

When the body of Jesus died, The Spirit of God came out of the body of Jesus.

The same with those people who had a NDEs, their body laying on the bed and their spirit came out of their body.

This is what happen to Jesus, Jesus body laying in the tomb, and the Spirit of God came out of the body of Jesus.

You see the Spirit inside of Jesus is God Himself.
As long as the Spirit of God was inside of Jesus. This is how Jesus is the Almighty God.and Jesus is still the Almighty God.
Great, the reason for asking was to establish, who YOU thought Jesus pbuh was, and you've confirmed him to be God Almighty, so now I'm perplexed as you said, 'real Christians follow Jesus pbuh and are peaceful and do not lie', yet as God of the OT and NT, he clearly hates disbelievers and can't wait to caste them into Hell for eternity. there are also plenty of references showing Saul the writer of much of the NT spread 'his' Gospel by telling a pack of lies, others lied in the OT to save a life etc.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Great, the reason for asking was to establish, who YOU thought Jesus pbuh was, and you've confirmed him to be God Almighty, so now I'm perplexed as you said, 'real Christians follow Jesus pbuh and are peaceful and do not lie', yet as God of the OT and NT, he clearly hates disbelievers and can't wait to caste them into Hell for eternity. there are also plenty of references showing Saul the writer of much of the NT spread 'his' Gospel by telling a pack of lies, others lied in the OT to save a life etc.


There is no where in NT where it said to kill the Unbelievers.
Paul not lie.
Muhammad lie to you.
Muhammad say he is messenger, but no one there to give proof
Muhammad say Allah tell him things, but Muhammad have no proof, only Muhammad say.
Muhammad could not write, had wife write for him, how muhammad know what wife wrote, Muhammad could not read or write.

Muhammad say Allah all powerful, but Allah not help muhammad to read or write.
Allah not all powerful not help Muhammad to read or write.
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
If there is only one god and it created everything, why did it create unbelievers?

Muslims believe that we are all one nation, children of Adam then we were created to be by nature believers.
We were not created unbelievers, rather some may have follow the religion/path of they parents, society or a personal choice which is to not believe in God.
Someone who doesn't believe in God may believe on day and vice versa.




 

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
There is no where in NT where it said to kill the Unbelievers.
Paul not lie.
Book of Revelation? Mother of all wars?? Dead numbering Tens of Millions???

Muhammad lie to you.
Muhammad say he is messenger, but no one there to give proof
Muhammad say Allah tell him things, but Muhammad have no proof, only Muhammad say.
Who told him the Universe started with a Big Bang, from the Gasses, it started to steadily expand, and will eventually lead to a Big Crunch? Who knew this information in the 7th Century?



Muhammad could not write, had wife write for him, how muhammad know what wife wrote, Muhammad could not read or write.

Muhammad say Allah all powerful, but Allah not help muhammad to read or write.
Allah not all powerful not help Muhammad to read or write.
Both Deut 18:18 and the Comforter promised by Jesus pbuh were to have the 'Word' of ALLAH swt placed in their mouth.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Book of Revelation? Mother of all wars?? Dead numbering Tens of Millions???

Who told him the Universe started with a Big Bang, from the Gasses, it started to steadily expand, and will eventually lead to a Big Crunch? Who knew this information in the 7th Century?



Both Deut 18:18 and the Comforter promised by Jesus pbuh were to have the 'Word' of ALLAH swt placed in their mouth.


Book of Revelation is about the believers and the Unbelievers.
Do you know, Who Satan is.

Satan is the Great Enemy of the Almighty God's.

Satan will come to get all people, Believers and Unbelievers to follow him, Satan is the Great Deceiver.

They that follow Satan, will be cast in lake that burns with fire.
Satan is the Great Deceiver.
Everyone will be tested, Believers and Unbelievers will be Tested.
To see who will go to heaven.

Revelation is the book of Testing

Satan will come into the world to Deceive all people in world, Believers and Unbelievers.
Satan will come saying he is the Almighty God.
Satan will do all kinds of Great miracles to fool the Believers and Unbelievers in believing he is the Almighty God.

How will you know that, Satan is not the Almighty God.
If you do not know, you will be deceived.

Satan is the Great Deceiver, he will come to deceived all people in the world.
Believers and Unbelievers.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Muslims believe that we are all one nation, children of Adam then we were created to be by nature believers.
We were not created unbelievers, rather some may have follow the religion/path of they parents, society or a personal choice which is to not believe in God.
Someone who doesn't believe in God may believe on day and vice versa.




If we were not created unbelievers and Allah is all-powerful, our parents and the whole of society must have been created as believers. Don’t Muslims believe that Allah controls all our thoughts and actions?

The whole point of Islam is that we all submit to Allah. If Allah is all-powerful, it should not need mere mortals to do its bidding.
 
Islam is the fastest growing Religion in the West amongst those of other faiths or no faith.

In the West, the conversion rate amongst those of other faiths or no faith to Islam is something like 0.000001% of the population per year.

That is the very definition of negligible, so 'fastest growing' is a very misleading way of putting it.

Anyway, seeing as there are no actual statistics for this it's entirely speculative. For example, how many of no faith become Christian every year (or convert from another faith)?
 

Jedster

Well-Known Member
If we were not created unbelievers and Allah is all-powerful, our parents and the whole of society must have been created as believers. Don’t Muslims believe that Allah controls all our thoughts and actions?

The whole point of Islam is that we all submit to Allah. If Allah is all-powerful, it should not need mere mortals to do its bidding.
Indeed, those that murder in the name of God, obviously have no real faith in their God.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Book of Revelation? Mother of all wars?? Dead numbering Tens of Millions???

Who told him the Universe started with a Big Bang, from the Gasses, it started to steadily expand, and will eventually lead to a Big Crunch? Who knew this information in the 7th Century?



Both Deut 18:18 and the Comforter promised by Jesus pbuh were to have the 'Word' of ALLAH swt placed in their mouth.


Muhammad lie to you,
Deut 18:18, is about Jesus comes into world , Not Muhammad. Muhammad lie to you.
From Adam and Eve Jesus was Promise to come, The Almighty God tells Moses in Deut 18:18 how Jesus will come and be a Great Prophet like Moses. Jesus will speak only the words put in his mouth.

Deut 18:18, is not Muhammad, Muhammad lie to you.

Deut 18:18 is about Christ Jesus.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
If we were not created unbelievers and Allah is all-powerful, our parents and the whole of society must have been created as believers. Don’t Muslims believe that Allah controls all our thoughts and actions?

The whole point of Islam is that we all submit to Allah. If Allah is all-powerful, it should not need mere mortals to do its bidding.

Your absolutely right, Just one other thing.

If Allah is all powerful, why Allah not help Muhammad to read and write?

Muhammad had his wife to read and write for him. Why not Allah help muhammad to read and write. If Allah is all powerful and can do all things ?
 

Mohsen

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
In what you said here, you answered your own question. About how Jesus is the Almighty God.

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Now that is amazing, how people such as you answer your own questions, without even knowing it.

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Mohsen

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Your absolutely right, Just one other thing.

If Allah is all powerful, why Allah not help Muhammad to read and write?

Muhammad had his wife to read and write for him. Why not Allah help muhammad to read and write. If Allah is all powerful and can do all things ?
Could Jesus read or write? :D
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
If we were not created unbelievers and Allah is all-powerful, our parents and the whole of society must have been created as believers. Don’t Muslims believe that Allah controls all our thoughts and actions?

The whole point of Islam is that we all submit to Allah. If Allah is all-powerful, it should not need mere mortals to do its bidding.

I agree. And we also believe that we are here for a short time, and that we'll be tested.

29.2 Do the people think that they will be left to say, "We believe" and they will not be tried?

10.99
And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed - all of them entirely. Then, [O Muhammad], would you compel the people in order that they become believers?


So as you see you are not forced but it clearly warns you. (if you die as a unbelivers).
Take the New Testament and see what Jesus says, he asked people to repent. Repent for what if he saved us for our sins ?
Of course it means that God will still judge us.

Also when you look at some cathedrales you can see there's something teached concerning the people Jesus talked about in the Book of revelation.
Who are supposed to be those people in Hell ? I think something is about unbelivers and sinners.

The first one the legend says it's about the Judgement Day.

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Mohsen

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Who are supposed to be those people in Hell ? I think something is about unbelivers and sinners.


Interesting question bro, ma sh'Allah.

In Dante's Divine Comedy, Hell was packed to the brim with Priests and Monks. Check out what Paul Williams had to say on this - it's really interesting:


watch from 1 minute 8 seconds onwards

Peace
 
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