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Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Moon, Sep 29, 2022.

  1. Moon

    Moon Well-Known Member

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    do atheists think theres anything greater than themselves? Higher power other than a god? perhaps the universe?
     
  2. F1fan

    F1fan Well-Known Member

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    Odd question. As an atheist I don't think in terms of me being great, or there being any sort of ranking system.

    There are many natural traits, like athletic ability, intelligence, hair color, looks, etc. that people can be assessed and ranked.
     
  3. Clizby Wampuscat

    Clizby Wampuscat Well-Known Member

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    I don't, but I am sure there are some that do believe that.
     
  4. Altfish

    Altfish Veteran Member

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    What a weird question!
    I wouldn't like to fight a lion.
    I can't fly like an eagle.
    My swimming ability is way below that of a salmon.
    I have yet to win a gold medal at the Olympics.
    I've got a degree but not an outstanding one.

    But I have raised two children, I have 3 grandchildren, and all are atheists. (That's a lie, the youngest two are 5 and 3 so are not old enough to make their mind up)
    But all are in awe of this planet, the stars and universe
     
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  5. MikeF

    MikeF Proponent of RAEism
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    Hmmm. Greater in what way? What would be your expectation of something that an atheist would consider greater? When you speak of higher power, are you referring to something that is sentient, has intelligence?

    My assumption is that most self-described atheists, have declared a disbelief in any kind of gods, plural, would also disbelieve any concept of a "higher power". They may entertain the possibility of other sentient life existing in the universe, but assert no claims as to characteristics without having any direct evidence.
     
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  6. AlexanderG

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    It really depends what you mean by "greater." There are various things or beings that are bigger, taller, smarter, faster, more pink-colored, more efficacious, or more cheerful than I am. Are they greater than me? I have no idea?

    Or do you mean are there things that I value more than myself? Probably.

    This is one of the reasons the ontological argument fails. "Maximally great being" will mean 10 different things to 10 different people.
     
  7. Moon

    Moon Well-Known Member

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    you should think higher of yourself.
     
  8. Moon

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    sorry i asked haha
     
  9. Altfish

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    Why?
    I'm no better than the next person.
     
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    Your true self is inferior to the greater self you imagine exists.

    Yes I'm joking. But after I wrote it it sounded exactly like what a theist might actually believe.
     
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  12. Father Heathen

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    Funny, most religious conservatives equate atheism with communism.
     
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  13. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle Hi, fellow primates AND overlords!
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    Says more about your distorted world view if you think all the non-religious do is be governed by this. :oops:
     
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  14. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Eh?

    It seems to me atheiest don't have a religious ego.
     
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