Frank Goad
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I heard someone say that ouija boards talk to the ghosts of dead people.Were did this idea first pop up?And why do people believe they are talking to the ghosts of dead people.Instead of demons?
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I heard someone say that ouija boards talk to the ghosts of dead people.Were did this idea first pop up?And why do people believe they are talking to the ghosts of dead people.Instead of demons?
“One of the first mentions of the automatic writing method used in the ouija board is found in China around 1100 AD, in historical documents of the Song Dynasty. The method was known as fuji "planchette writing". The use of planchette writing as an ostensible means of necromancy and communion with the spirit-world continued, and, albeit under special rituals and supervisions, was a central practice of the Quanzhen School, until it was forbidden by the Qing Dynasty.[13] Several entire scriptures of the Daozang are supposedly works of automatic planchette writing. According to one author, similar methods of mediumistic spirit writing have been practiced in ancient India, Greece, Rome, and medieval Europe.[14]”
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I asked them if they were demons, and then I pushed the planchette to ‘no,’ so I know they’re not demons.
I heard someone say that ouija boards talk to the ghosts of dead people.Were did this idea first pop up?And why do people believe they are talking to the ghosts of dead people.Instead of demons?
God leaves us in no doubt....Ouija boards are not communicating with the dead...but with demons impersonating them......trying to fool those who have not bothered to check out the scriptures for themselves, they have left themselves wide open to deception.
Can you show where demons are said to impersonate dead people?
I was asking you to show where it it said that demons impersonate dead persons. It's not testified by the text that a demon was impersonating Samuel, therefore it is only your opinion that it was demon impersonating Samuel.1 Samuel 28:3-19.
This is the account of the witch of Endor who supposedly summoned the 'ghost' of the prophet Samuel.
The account begins with....
"Now Samuel had died, and all Israel had mourned him and had buried him in Raʹmah, his own city.+ And Saul had removed the spirit mediums and the fortune-tellers from the land." (see Leviticus 19:31; Leviticus 20:6; 27)
Saul had cleared the land of all spirit mediums at Jehovah's command. Because of the practice of the Canaanites to consult with the dead, (a form of spiritism) God warned Israel that they were not to adopt the ways of the people they were displacing. (Deuteronomy 18:9-12) They did not obey their God.
According to verse 6, Saul had tried to communicate with Jehovah through his living prophets, but God would not speak with him by any means. In verse 7, in desperation Saul resorted to a practice that his God had outlawed. Now, would God permit a dead prophet to speak with a disobedient King through a means that he forbade, when his living prophets refused to communicate with him?
The 'spirit' brought up by the woman could not have been Samuel, but a demon impersonating him. In the account, only the woman could see "Samuel" and hear his words. Saul relied on the medium to tell him what the spirit said.
There you have a Biblical example.
I was asking you to show where it it said that demons impersonate dead persons. It's not testified by the text that a demon was impersonating Samuel, therefore it is only your opinion that it was demon impersonating Samuel.
Do have have any real support for your claim?
Didn’t you just get through posting, “You might be better off talking with living persons who know something rather than dead persons who know nothing”?I was asking you to show where it it said that demons impersonate dead persons. It's not testified by the text that a demon was impersonating Samuel, therefore it is only your opinion that it was demon impersonating Samuel.
Do have have any real support for your claim?
Don't you even realize that it's only your opinion that it was a demon impersonating Samuel? The text says NOTHING like that!Good grief....
Commentators have suggested that it was actually Samuel and that God was the one who caused him to be raised from the dead.Didn’t you just get through posting, “You might be better off talking with living persons who know something rather than dead persons who know nothing”?
And keep in mind Psalms 115:17; Genesis 3:19.
It’s only at the Resurrection when the dead will “come to life.” — Revelation 20:5.
So, who else could it be? The demons.
This explains why God forbids His worshippers to “inquire of the dead”; it’s classified along w/ magic, casting spells, and fortune telling. — Deuteronomy 18:10-12.
Commentators have suggested that it was actually Samuel and that God was the one who caused him to be raised from the dead.
The woman was surprised when she saw "gods" ascending from the earth because she was a fraud just like all mediums today are frauds.
Another plausible suggestion is that it was not Samuel at all, but God had sent one of His angels to make Saul and the medium think it was Samuel for the purpose of again informing Saul that he was to die.Didn’t you just get through posting, “You might be better off talking with living persons who know something rather than dead persons who know nothing”?
And keep in mind Psalms 115:17; Genesis 3:19.
It’s only at the Resurrection when the dead will “come to life.” — Revelation 20:5.
So, who else could it be? The demons.
This explains why God forbids His worshippers to “inquire of the dead”; it’s classified along w/ magic, casting spells, and fortune telling. — Deuteronomy 18:10-12.
Another plausible suggestion is that it was not Samuel at all, but God had sent one of His angels to make Saul and the medium think it was Samuel for the purpose of again informing Saul that he was to die.
James 4:7 says "resist THE DEVIL...." it does NOT say "resist the demons..."Are you serious? How is this "plausible", but satan sending one of his own through a forbidden practice, is not? Does God break his own laws?
Samuel was not resurrected....the medium was the only one who saw and heard "him". The scriptures clearly indicate why spiritistic practices invite the demons. We are to oppose him...not invite him. (James 4:7)
Why were all forms of spiritism an abomination to God? For goodness sake...what is this blindness?
The reason God does not want his people to seek mediums is because it is a false idea that people can contact dead people. The dead are dead and not living. Therefore it goes against the truth.Are you serious? How is this "plausible", but satan sending one of his own through a forbidden practice, is not? Does God break his own laws?
Samuel was not resurrected....the medium was the only one who saw and heard "him". The scriptures clearly indicate why spiritistic practices invite the demons. We are to oppose him...not invite him. (James 4:7)
Why were all forms of spiritism an abomination to God? For goodness sake...what is this blindness?