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Question about paul and his beliefs

Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by Frank Goad, Jan 17, 2021.

  1. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Well-Known Member

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    Did paul believe you leave your body in some way when you die?
    I think 2 Cor 5:6-8.And Phil 1:21-24.And 2 Tim 4:1-8.Say yes.:) What do you think?

    My post below has references to all the passages i quoted.Sorry I had to make two posts.:(
     
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    Here is all the passages from above.From BibleGateway.com: A searchable online Bible in over 150 versions and 50 languages.
    2 Corinthians 5:6-8
    King James Version

    6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

    7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

    8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

    Philippians 1:21-24
    King James Version

    21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

    22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.

    23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:

    24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.

    2 Timothy 4:1-8
    King James Version

    4 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

    2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

    3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

    4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

    5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

    6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.

    7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:

    8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
     
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    I would have to say, "most definitely".

    It would appear that it was the prevalent thought for that time:

    The Resurrection and Marriage
    27 Some of the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to Jesus with a question.
    28 “Teacher,” they said, “Moses wrote for us that if a man’s brother dies and leaves a wife but no children, the man must marry the widow and raise up offspring for his brother.
    29 Now there were seven brothers. The first one married a woman and died childless.
    30 The second
    31 and then the third married her, and in the same way the seven died, leaving no children.
    32 Finally, the woman died too.
    33 Now then, at the resurrection whose wife will she be, since the seven were married to her?”
    34 Jesus replied, “The people of this age marry and are given in marriage.
    35 But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage,
    36 and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God’s children, since they are children of the resurrection.
    37 But in the account of the burning bush, even Moses showed that the dead rise, for he calls the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’
    38 He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.”
    39 Some of the teachers of the law responded, “Well said, teacher!”
    40 And no one dared to ask him any more questions.
     
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    Why do you consistently look for ways to contradict the Bible’s teachings @ Ecclesiastes 9:5, Psalms 146:3-4, Genesis 3:19 (which is Jehovah God’s clear statement to Adam), Psalms 104:29, Psalms 115:17, and others?
    (We die just as animals do, and our spirit is just as theirs is. Ecclesiastes 3:19-20...”same outcome.”)

    Yes, there is “going to be (Acts of the Apostles 24:15)” a Resurrection, but it hasn’t happened yet.
    Cf. John 5:28-29

    If the dead are currently living in another realm, as many believe, there would be no need for a future resurrection. John 6:44. (Did you read, “in the Last Day”?)

    And what did Paul believe about the condition of the dead? Notice his words @ 1 Corinthians 15:6....”After that he appeared to more than 500 brothers at one time, most of whom are still with us, though some have fallen asleep in death.
    Isn’t that what Jesus said about Lazarus @ John 11:11-14?

    Since we know the Bible does not contradict itself, we have to interpret all Scriptures referring to death with that understanding.

    And I’m sorry to stress this again, but according to Deuteronomy 18:10-12, anything having to do w/ the occult, is not acceptable to Jehovah God.
    We can expect some things promoted in this world, even tho it seems appealing, to be Satanic and deadly - Paul confirms that @ 2 Corinthians 11:14...”And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.”

    Please don’t get lured by the occult, my cousin!
     
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