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Question about passages that might say there is an afterlife right when you die

Discussion in 'Religions Q&A' started by Frank Goad, May 13, 2019.

  1. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Active Member

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    In Ecclesiastes 12:7 it says the spirit goes to God right when you die.Also in Acts 7:54-59.Stephen said "jesus receive my spirit" as he was being stoned to death.Also in Hebrews 9:27.It says when you die the judgement.And in 2 Corinthians 5:10 it says we all must appear before jesus for judgment.Also in 2 Corinthians 5:6-9.It says we want to be absent from the body and present with God.And in 2 Corinthians 5:9 some people are already absent from the body and with the lord.
     
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  2. Terry Sampson

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    So, Frank, ... what are your questions?

    By the way, you do realize that this thread is a metaphorical "dinner bell" for cats, don't you? They should be along soon.

    Here, Kitty-kitty ...
     
  3. URAVIP2ME

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    Yes, Ecclesiastes 12:7 does say the spirit "it" goes to God.
    "it" goes to God in the same way a foreclosed house goes back to the owner.
    The house does Not move or go anywhere but any future for the house now lies in the hands of the owner.
    So, one's spirit ("it") returns to God, the Owner, in the sense that any future life (resurrection) is in God's safe hands.
    James knew his life's spirit ("it") would be received favorably thus James would have a resurrection.
    As for Hebrews 9:27; 2 Cor. 5:10 judgement for the dead happens after death after they are resurrected.
    They can have either a favorable or an adverse judgement depending on what they do 'after' they are resurrected.
    At Chapter 5 the ' we ' mentioned starting at verse one is for those of Revelation 20:6; 5:9-10 who have that first or earlier resurrection to heaven to reign with Christ for a thousand years over Earth, over Christ's earthly subjects.
    The ' we ' mentioned are also Jesus' spiritual ' brothers ' which chapter 15 of 1st Corinthians is also about.
    The later resurrection of Acts of the Apostles 24:15 is for those who will inherit (Not heaven) but inherit the earth.
    So, in Scripture there are two (2) resurrection hopes:
    One is a heavenly hope for some like those of Luke 22:28-30 ( a heavenly resurrection )
    One is an earthly hope for those like those of John 3:13 ( an earthly resurrection )
    In other words, some gain everlasting life in heaven, and the majority can gain everlasting life on earth.
     
  4. Frank Goad

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    Can you do to my first post.What you did to your post?(breaking down what you were talking verse by verse)?
     
  5. Gerry

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    Why wouldn’t there be an afterlife immediately after bodily death?
     
  6. URAVIP2ME

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    In Scripture I find there is No ' after life ' because afterlife means more alive after death than before death.
    Rather, Scripture teaches: Resurrection.
    The dead know nothing, nothing but unconscious sleep at John 11:11-14; Psalms 146:4; Ecclesiastes 9:5
    Thus, No one dead is either in pain nor in bliss, but in restful dreamless sleep.
    Sleep until Resurrection Day ( Jesus' coming millennium-long day of governing over Earth for a thousand years )
    Some do have a first or earlier heavenly resurrection as found at Revelation 20:6; 5:9-10; 2:10; Luke 22:28-30.
    The majority can have a later resurrection to become part of the humble meek who will inherit the Earth.
    This is why the ' future tense ' is used at Acts of the Apostles 24:15 that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection.....
     
  7. Gerry

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    I see
     
  8. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Active Member

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    URAVIP2ME.Can you read all of the verses of my first post back to back?And then tell me what you think?And in case you don't know it.I quoted my first post at the top of this post.
     
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