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Question about demons

Discussion in 'Paranormal Activities' started by Frank Goad, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Active Member

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    Can demons give women babies through rape while they are asleep?I think these kind of demons are called incubus.I don't know.
     
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    There's no proper evidence of it.
     
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    No.
     
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    Honestly, the following post may be harsh, but it may be for your own good too:

    Some of this paranormal stuff, not all, may possibly be real. But some people use it to escape into a fantasy world. I have before too, quite honestly. I think the paranormal must be approached with an ounce of caution and two ounces skepticism. I'm willing to discuss a bit more about these subjects in these threads, and with more patience than I have shown in the past toward them. I can write long posts about it and link articles or show some of my previous posts on the subject. But eventually we are led to questions such as "Why believe demons impregnant women?"

    Why this is important is the subject of the paranormal can be a bit harmful if not properly understood. It happens with people like faith healers who think they are sometimes helping but are actually causing problems.

    So with all explained conditions aside, I might be able to help somewhat on your pursuit in the rabbit-holes of the subject of the paranormal. But need to give us somewhere to start.
     
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    Karl jung is a good spot to start. Joseph campbell is another.
     
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    The only incubus and succubus that exist, are in the minds of sexual predators. Which is a real enough cause for concern if you ask me.
     
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    Yes it is possible for "Demons" to rape and impregnate women, in the middle ages it was often reported that these nocturnal sexual predators often disguised themselves as local priests, nobles etc.
     
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    So what is the practical application of this, Frank? Please please tell me you're NOT going to be walking around wondering if some of the people you encounter are actually half-demons.
     
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    It just caught my interest.No i am NOT going to go walking around wondering if some of the people I encounter are actually half-demons.
     
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    Demons can physically attack people.....I know, because I have experienced them trying to enter my body. I had to fight with everything in me to fend them off. They struck me speechless so that I couldn't call out. In my mind I appealed to Jehovah and was able to prevent them gaining control. I understood the material reason for their presence, and got rid of it.
    Just because people have never had a demonic encounter, doesn't mean that they can dismiss those who have, as delusional. This was no delusion or bad dream.

    The point is, demons are very real and they can harass and attack people in a physical way....as Jesus demonstrated when he was on earth......what they cannot do now, is materialize, which is something they did in the days of Noah and they did impregnate women and produced freakish children who caused no end of trouble at that time. (Genesis 6) They forced God to do something drastic.

    Since they cannot physically create a pregnancy, that did not take away their obsession with violence and sexual immorality....something that marked the days of Noah and also marks our own time, when Jesus is about to makes his presence felt in a very real way. (Matthew 24:37-39)

    His first act as a victorious king is to confine the devil and his hordes to a prison-like state for a thousand years, whilst God, through the agency of his Christ, cleanses the earth of all traces of the devil's evil world system, and replaces it will a righteous new form of Theocratic rulership. (Revelation 20:1-3; 2 Peter 3:13)

    For those who have faithfully stuck to the teaching of Jesus, a wonderful future awaits....with the devil and his demons out of the way......

    "With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” (Revelation 21:3-4)

    We are not going through all the trials of this life for nothing.....
     
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    That's nice. There are no more "freakish children" who cause trouble. So, that means demons can no longer "materialise". :eek:
     
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    I think its best to hope in God even in these situations and not get obsessed with ''paranormal' I think demons would like you to be obsessed with them instead of God.

    In a tragedy it's better look to God for help and hope even in the pain and difficulties.
     
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    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Demons can't force anything on you. You have to be willing to allow it to happen.

    Genesis 3:15

    15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

    Demons can entice, coerce, compell, seduce you. But they are not allowed to harm you against your will.
     
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    I'm glad you're OK.
    They can attack in a physical way, but they cannot materialize?
     
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    What???? These offspring were the product of rebellious spirits and human women.....they were not sons of Adam and so they had no right to exist. They were not of God's creation and they were evil to their core. Not one of them was considered worthy of saving.

    After the flood, demons are not spoken of as materialized humans again....faithful angels are as they delivered instruction from God to men like Abraham and Lot. Gabriel materialized to Daniel and also to Mary.

    The demons can possess people and inanimate objects, but they cannot manipulate matter to become material beings anymore. This is what we believe "Tartarus" is...a state of restriction, and spiritual darkness....not an actual location...and certainly not "hell".
     
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    I have had a few encounters with them, but I always managed to find what it was that brought them into my house and destroy it.
    God's spirit is stronger than they are.

    They are spirits...created by God to inhabit the same realm in which he dwells. Their ability to materialize was evidently part of their natural ability because the angels who came to earth to mate with human women in Noah's day, did not have God's permission or sanction to do what they did. Because they materialized human form, they ate and drank like any other human. They were able to father children and ruin the earth with their violence and immoral ways. Greek mythology we believe is based on their existence. Their belief in licentious and morally flawed gods and demi-gods fits in with Moses' description of what took place before the flood.
     
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    Gabriel didn't materialize, he appeared. The Scripture NEVER says angels materialize, instead it says that they appear by the eyes of men being opened to see them.
    And furthermore, God's angels are immortal, meaning they NEVER die. Which means they NEVER sin.
    You ought to stop making things up. Really.
     
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    In the O.T. demons were idols. They were graven images which people worshiped as gods. During N.T. times, demons were thought to be the spirits of dead men.

    The truth is that the sin of Adam has brought death into the world. If a person has a physical or mental illness it is due to the fact that death comes in many ways. Some will recover or control certain illnesses with the help of medicine and others will succumb to the illness and die.
     
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    I can share a bit of European folklore on this but I ask that you treat it as folklore, not as something that can actually happen to people.

    There's a being known as a cambion which is the offspring of a human and a demon. More specifically, the offspring of incubi and succubi. The creation of cambions was sometimes given as the reason for their sexual attacks.

    This is where it gets a bit grim, so consider yourself warned... Tradition held that demons were incapable of reproduction by themselves and so they needed human sperm to achieve conception. One way was for a succubus to collect the sperm of a sleeping man and pass this on to an incubus who would then use it to impregnate a woman. Therefore, by a circuitous route, demons could procreate with humans. Another (more gruesome) option was for an incubus to collect the sperm from a man's corpse and use that to impregnate a woman.

    I warned you it was grim!
     
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    What does "appeared" mean? "Appear" is the opposite of "disappear" and that is what they did. They materialized and dematerialized at will. God's law forbade communication with spirits....at times, materialized angels ate and drank like humans....spirits don't do that.

    Actually, there were times after Jesus' resurrection when the body he materialized to his disciples, wasn't recognized by them. On one occasion when he was dining with them, he simply disappeared before their eyes. They identified him by the way he broke the bread. On other occasions he had wounds visible to convince his disciples that it was him, and on others, there is no mention of them.

    John 21:9-12 says....
    "When they came ashore, they saw there a charcoal fire with fish lying on it and bread. 10 Jesus said to them: “Bring some of the fish you just now caught.” 11 So Simon Peter went on board and hauled the net ashore full of big fish, 153 of them. And though there were so many, the net did not burst. 12 Jesus said to them: “Come, have your breakfast.” Not one of the disciples had the courage to ask him: “Who are you?” because they knew it was the Lord."

    They had spent the last three and half years in close company with Jesus and they needed to ask "who are you"? He was resurrected as a spirit, (1 Peter 3:18) but never did God's faithful angels or Jesus appear to his earthly servants as apparitions. Unless it was a vision, (as with the transfiguration) they were always in material, human form. Gabriel appeared as a man, to Daniel and to Mary and also to Zechariah concerning the birth of John the Baptist.

    Perhaps you need to study the Bible a bit more...because that is not what the Bible says. Angels who abuse their free will like satan, become rebel spirits, whom the Bible identifies as demons. Angels can sin just as humans can, but because they are more powerful, their capacity for evil is magnified....it gives deeper meaning to the word "inhuman" when applied to certain actions that go against normal human thinking or behavior. "Inhuman" means "not human" and demonstrates demonic influence over those humans who can be led into that "inhuman" level of evil.

    But for the majority of the angels, love for their God and loyal obedience to his commands keeps those faithful ones in good standing. The whole scenario in Eden is as much about the faithfulness of the angels as it is about us humans. We are all under test.

    Living forever doesn't necessarily mean being immortal. An immortal cannot die, and yet Jesus came to earth from heaven and lived and died as a mortal. He relied on his God and Father to restore his life by resurrection. He was a spirit before he came to earth and returned to heaven as a spirit.

    In the beginning, human beings could have continued living unless they disobeyed their God. Access to the "tree of life" is what would have kept humans alive forever. But after they disobeyed, God barred access to that source of unending life. Death was the result.

    Jesus clearly stated the fate of satan and his angels.

    "Then he will say to those on his left: ‘Go away from me, you who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels."
    (Matthew 25:4; Jude 6; Revelation 12:9)

    I believe that you are mistaken....
     
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