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Putin Blames West For Invasion Of Ukraine

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I was thinking this:
Ukraine joins NATO and Russia gets Donbass and Crimea.

It seems fair quid pro quo to me.
Why should Russia be rewarded for it's unjustified aggression and war crimes? Fair would be Russia withdrawing its forces, all of the responsible parties rounded up and sent to The Hague, and for reparations to be arranged.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The article is behind a paywall. I used to have an extension to bypass paywalls, but I guess they're getting better at hiding information these days.
The sneaky buggers! I was thinking that I got around the paywall by using a secondary device and it was interrupted just as it got interesting.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Because Americans think that Europeans would join them in a world war against Putin?
Yes ...sure... ;)
We've already corrected your dishonest nonsense. Don't insult the forum by repeating it.

 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Why should Russia be rewarded for it's unjustified aggression and war crimes? Fair would be Russia withdrawing its forces, all of the responsible parties rounded up and sent to The Hague, and for reparations to be arranged.
Do you realize this is a joke thread?
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
Don't forget murder, torture, rape, & destruction.
Yes of course! And post war there will be a boom to replace all the equipment that the Ukrainians have systematically destroyed! And frankly, this whole conflict is revealing just how pathetic Russia's military is with the exception of nukes! Its tipping their hand!
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
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Father Heathen

Veteran Member
It is.
RFK Jr isn't liked by many dems because he hasn't received the Sorosian approval.
:)
Only Saint Hillary has, so far.
Or maybe because he's an anti-semitic science denier? Also, you need to get over your weird obsession with Soros. What makes you think most people even know or care about him?
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Their culture is ****ed up: Dedovshchina - Wikipedia

I wouldn't take military hazing rituals to be a representation of such a massive old country's culture, though.

Historically, Russian culture has given the world the works of Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Pushkin, and Tchaikovsky, in addition to Yuri Gagarin's flight, among other things.

I see Russia the same way I see other powerful countries with a long, checkered history and a large population. I hope it manages to get rid of Putin's regime and adopts more peaceful policies when he's out of power (and hopefully tried for his crimes). His reign has been a reprehensibly low point for the country morally, politically, and intellectually.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I was thinking about this:
if we give you guys Sardinia, can we have Trump in return?

I mean...Sardinia can become a US territory, a state, whatever.
Deal? :)
Honestly, I don't get you at all. As a jurist, I would have assumed that evidence was the most important thing for you in making judgments -- and the evidence is in, Donald Trump is simply dreadful is just about every way possible. He lies continually -- no compulsively, even when he doesn't need to. He stabs his friends in the back, and abandons his benefactors. He uses and cheats people much worse-off than him with perfect equanimity -- how many employees, lawyers, buyers of his wares have been cheated of the money he owes them?

This man is worse by far than the lawyers you were just yesterday excoriating.
 
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