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Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by Faithofchristian, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. Faithofchristian

    Faithofchristian Well-Known Member

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    Can you tell where in Revelation,
    Matthew 24:31 fits in.

    Seeing how you got everything else wrong and out it's context.
     
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    2ndpillar Well-Known Member

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    Rev 20:4
     
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    So you believe Rev 20:4, goes with Matthew 24:31.
    Now as to why would Christ Jesus need to send his angels to gather his elect, when his elect are already with him.

    So that means Matthew 24:31 does fit with Revelation 20:4, As you were taught.

    As Matthew 24:31, clearly states, That Christ Jesus shall send his angels and they shall gather together his elect"

    Now as for Revelation 20:4, here we find Christ Jesus elect are already with Christ Jesus and they sat upon the thrones and judgement was given unto them.

    So how are Christ Jesus elect to be gathered, if the elect are already with Christ Jesus sitting upon thrones.

    Care to explain how this is possible.
     
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    Revelation 20:4 is with respect to the dead who will arise to reign with "Christ". The dead are all in the grave. As for the "elect", those are the ones written in the "book of life" from the foundation of the world (Revelation 13:8) who have not worshipped the beast or taken the number of his name. That would preclude the followers of the false prophet Paul who have already died. As for the reigning of the "Word of God", the reigning will be over the Gentiles/nations (Revelation 19:13-15), and will be done from Mount Zion, the citadel of David, whose physical presence is in Jerusalem. That will be were the "elect", the "few", will have their rooms. Apparently, the birds of the air, had reservations for the rooms in the clouds.

    Isaiah 2:1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.

    2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

    3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

    4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
     
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    There's no one in the graves, only dead body corps are in the earth.

    Have you any idea at all, who the Dead represents. What does the bible say who the Dead are spiritually discerned.

    You do know what it means to have
    Spiritual discernment ?

    So who's the Dead, in the Spiritual Realm ?
     
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    The "dead" of Revelation 20:4, were those who"came to life", such as Ezekiel 37:9-12

    Ezekiel 37: 7 So I prophesied as I was commanded; and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold, a rattling; and the bones came together, bone to its bone. 8 And I looked, and behold, sinews were on them, and flesh grew and skin covered them; but there was no breath in them. 9Then He said to me, “Prophesy to the breath, prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe on these slain, that they come to life.”’” 10 So I prophesied as He commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they came to life and stood on their feet, an exceedingly great army
     
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    Really got to be kidding.just another made up story.
     
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    I don't know. It seems you make up stories as you go along. I think the false Paul's made up story of you turning from perishable to imperishable is based on the core story of Ezekiel 37:7-10 with regards to the "dead will be raised imperishable". (1 Corinthians 15:52-53) The righteous dead will be raised, those dead in spirit, those who died apart from God, will not (Revelation 20:5). If you discount the Law and the prophets, and then discount your own false prophet, what is the base of your made up stories? You seem to have fallen into a deep rabbit hole, and I am not sure how you are going to get out of it. Maybe you could take a vacation to aunt Mabel's home to relieve some stress.

    1 Corinthians 15: 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality

    Ezekiel 37: 7 So I prophesied as I was commanded; and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold, a rattling; and the bones came together, bone to its bone. 8 And I looked, and behold, sinews were on them, and flesh grew and skin covered them; but there was no breath in them. 9Then He said to me, “Prophesy to the breath, prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD, “Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe on these slain, that they come to life.”’” 10 So I prophesied as He commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they came to life and stood on their feet, an exceedingly great army
     
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    You call Paul false, but you do alot of qouting Paul's writings.

    I like for you to spiritually discerned who the Dead are.
    What does the bible/scriptures say who the Dead spiritually discerned are.
     
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    If you are going to call someone a "false prophet", you had better know what they have supposedly said and done, and familiar with the fruit of their tree/church (Matthew 7:18). The spiritually "dead" are those separated from God by way of sin, transgressing the Law of God. (1 John 3:4 & Isaiah 59:2)

    New International Version Isaiah 59:2
    But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear.
     
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